@Meddler: Any chance of seeing Poppy buffs again?

Dessem·Aug 21, 2016·13 votes·1,324 views

So Worlds is coming up and all, and I remember when Poppy was reworked she was a highly contested pick.

I don't think she's really a pick often considered these days. I can't even remember the last time I've seen a Poppy top. Champion.gg puts her winrates at atrocious regardless of role played. I'm understood she's never recovered from the large nerfs to her engagement range; I think it's high time to give the valiant little Yordle some love again.

#MakePoppyGreatAgain

EDIT: I'm aware there are, in fact, Poppy buffs on PBE. I just think we need more than 5 MS and 3% armour/mr to see Poppy rise to viability again. We need actual love.

18 Comments

TheHurricaneGamrAug 21, 20164 votes

Poppy is one of my best champions, and have a pretty good success rate with her and can solo carry most games if I get a lead in lane (which I can very often). I usually go item 3068 item 3111 item 3742 or item 3143 , item 3065 and then a item 3083 or item 3053 depending on the situation. Don't go item 3025 , because that item is not all that good on Poppy. While she does do good with sheen items, she doesn't really need mana all that much if you bring the Meditation mastery, it gives too much armor and health is probably the biggest stat for tanks to build. item 3071 on the other hand, works really well on Poppy, because it gives health (really good) 50 AD (Poppy scales really well with Bonus AD) and the same amount of CDR as the item 3025 . It also gives 30% Armor shred (Base damage does more) and move speed on-hit (Rage passive puts you in a better position to slam somebody in a wall.)
*In summary, if you want damage go for not ** *If you want a Sheen Item, is pretty fun to mess around with

She is also getting some love next patch, so we will have to see how those pan out. However, she is still rewarding if you put time into her.

Danyul TargaryenAug 21, 20163 votes

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Poppy is one of my best champions, and have a pretty good success rate with her and can solo carry most games if I get a lead in lane (which I can very often). I usually go or, and then a or depending on the situation. Don't go , because that item is not all that good on Poppy. While she does do good with sheen items, she doesn't really need mana all that much if you bring the Meditation mastery, it gives too much armor and health is probably the biggest stat for tanks to build. on the other hand, works really well on Poppy, because it gives health (really good) 50 AD (Poppy scales really well with Bonus AD) and the same amount of CDR as the . It also gives 30% Armor shred (Base damage does more) and move speed on-hit (Rage passive puts you in a better position to slam somebody in a wall.)
*In summary, if you want damage go for not ** *If you want a Sheen Item, is pretty fun to mess around with

She is also getting some love next patch, so we will have to see how those pan out. However, she is still rewarding if you put time into her.

dont build steracks is poppy the shield is nice but the base ad bonus is useless cuz her moves scale with bonus ad

TheHurricaneGamrAug 21, 20162 votes

Sterak's is a situational item that I use as an anti-burst mechanism. The base AD is nice, but it's not the reason you buy the item.

KeepeAug 21, 20161 votes

Garen going Demacia up in here? Sterak's. Veigar going AHAHAHAHAHAHNYEH HEH HEH? Sterak's. Not sure why they're giving you shizzle over a viable item choice, but as a lover of Veigar, allow me to say "I hate you" from the deepest depths of my dead heart.

MunchCrunchLunchAug 21, 20162 votes

They gave her multiple microscopic buffs that didn't raise her win rate at all. She's one of my favorite Champs but her state saddens me. Especially the promised jungle poppy

Great MutaAug 21, 20162 votes

Don't do jungle poppy. I got a chat restriction last time I tried that shit. Clears are so slow and her mana is awful.

RalanrAug 21, 20161 votes

It didn't used to be bad...when she had her fucking AA reset.

#BringBacktheReset

Voluug13Aug 21, 20161 votes

They really need to buff her jungling speed. Make Q hit monster for harder, or E to stun monsters double time for double damage, or something. Anything.

RalanrAug 21, 20161 votes

Or bring back the AA reset.

DessemAug 21, 20161 votes

Yeah, I edited my OP. I'm aware there are buffs for Poppy, but I mean she needs actual love. The 3%/6% armour/MR won't be felt until lategame, whereas she lost a LOT of her earlygame power when they nerfed her range by 100.

DunkinNoobsAug 21, 20162 votes

I still have flashbacks from when Poppy was the undisputed best top laner in the game and destroyed absolutely everyone while building full tank. I say let her suck a while.

kuzzy47Aug 21, 20161 votes

Being frontline you will eat all the slows and stuns gl getting into position to land that charge.W should ignore all slows imo.

NotCounterAug 21, 20161 votes

Her E range nerf pretty much killed Poppy for me, it was already difficult enough to land a stun on someone aware of how to position themselves against her and then the range made it significantly harder to punish people who aren't.

DessemAug 21, 20162 votes

E range nerf was too harsh. Yasuo's Q has a longer range than Poppy's E. Heck, her Hammer Shock's range is (apparently??) longer. (430 vs 425)

TheDeviceAug 21, 20161 votes

Riots nerfs hit too many areas

The damage nerfs were her downfall. I understand the CC nerfs (even though the E range was also over-nerfed) but the damage nerfs made her early game atrocious. These minor buffs are not going to bring her back in line with other top laners.

All these little defensive buffs are going to do is make her seem even more overpowered if and hopefully when they buff some of her damage. These types of balance practices cause champions to be benched for a long time.

DessemAug 21, 20161 votes

Yeah, I am aware there are some buffs to her (in hindsight a bit more than I initially thought), but it's her earlygame that makes it hard to stay competitive with others. The range nerfs additionally made her feel bad to play due to how small your range is (Irelia's Q is longer, f'rinstance).

THE RlVER KlNGAug 21, 20161 votes

There are plenty of other champions more deserving of buffs than Poppy. Crying that she's no longer pick/ban just seems redundant to me - she dominated pro play alongside Ekko and Mao and got justly nerfed, and is just now getting big buffs again over a couple of patches.