can akali not 100-0 the second she hits 6?

terriblygood·Aug 3, 2016·6 votes·757 views

i mean her base damage is just so high the second she hits 6 your dead if your not under tower

14 Comments

EndlessSorcererAug 3, 20167 votes

She can't.

She has to wait for charges after she ranks up her ultimate.

PennsAug 3, 20162 votes

With ignite its probably still gonna be close. Level 6 with item 3145 tho... rip.

1wolfpackAug 3, 20163 votes

100-0 who? garen, darius, volibear? or you mean she can 100-0 squishy mages like annie, veigar etc!!! the same mages that are just as likely to 100-0 her at lvl 6 as she is to 100-0 them. got it, thanks for clearing that up

IceemberAug 3, 20162 votes

Thank you. Finally someone that isn't sheeple and is like: "Akali op pls nurf". Not to mention I don't get what the OP means by "huge base damages" my level 6 all in requires 2 Qs with proc, 2 ult charges an E and possibly ignite. That is nearly 2 full rotations and a summoner spell just to kill a squishy (the 3 you mention at the top of your post require 3 or 4 rotations level 6..) i have friends that are talon mains that can more reliably 100-0 their lane opponent in 1 rotation. "High bases"

Hinagiku33Aug 3, 20161 votes

I just checked some numbers on this "high base damage":

Akali's Passive base value is 6% of AD as magic damage; at Lv. 6 her base AD is 71 so it gives 4.25 magic damage on her basic attacks
Akali's Q, Rank 3 does 75 magic damage with an extra 95 magic damage for proc'ing the mark.
Akali's W does no damage
Akali's E, Rank 1 does 30 physical damage
Akali's R, Rank 1 does 100 magic damage (she also gains 1 charge for putting a rank in R then has to wait 60 seconds for her other two charges)

So just talking base damage, Akali's Lv. 6 all-in does 274.25 magic damage/101 physical damage = 375.25 total damage. Factor in her target's resistances and you can reduce each damage category by about 30% making her damage roughly 181 magic damage/66.6 physical damage = 247.6 total damage. Throw in a little more if she can get off extra auto-attacks.

Considering every champion starts with more Health than that, I'm guessing that Akali isn't getting any kills with just her base damage when she hits 6. If she waits for her ult charges, and factoring in her scaling since she rushes damage items, then she totally could kill something at Lv. 7~ especially if she has Ignite up.

...So what are we supposed to do? Cut her scaling?

Just get a item 1033 . I don't care who you are playing, you item 3155 literally item 3001 have item 3065 no item 3102 excuse item 3139 not item 3111 to item 3190 (...or item 3512 item 3091 item 3174 if that's your flavor).

CaítlynAug 3, 20162 votes

The second she hits 6 she only has 1 stack of her ult. So she can only dash once.

ShadòwAug 3, 20162 votes

well Fizz can do this on lvl 3 already

Buff Jax pleaseAug 3, 20162 votes

How about you get out of Bronze first?

CerealBoxOfDoomAug 3, 20161 votes

why shouldn't she be allowed to?

AeszarckAug 3, 20161 votes

Well, you'd better weaken her first then if you're a squishy ranged mage or another squishy assassin. That way she isn't so inclined to go ham on you once she hits six in fear of you killing her before she gets you.

If this is Akali top lane, then if you're playing a fighter or a tank, she shouldn't be able to burst you down from full health in one combo. If you're playing a marksman or mage, same tactics from middle lane apply.

FioraWillCarryAug 3, 20161 votes

People are complaining about Akali when Leblanc exists ? Leblanc does everything Akali does but much better. Going in for Akali is a always a risk, she could die. Leblanc can go in and be 100% sure she will get out if she fucks up.

Succubús GFAug 3, 20161 votes

i have never read something so accurate.

deadlychuckAug 3, 20161 votes

That said, back before they'd 100-0 you so easily, they weren't nearly half as bad.

Kaisa is HotAug 3, 20161 votes

As an Akali main this kind of insults me. Saying she can 100-0 right after she hits 6 is like saying you don't know how to play the game, or counterpick. Just pick Kassadin or some shit, another mobile assassin with good burst. She can't 100-0 you the second she hits 6, she only has 1 ult stack and probably didn't buy Hextech Revolver yet.

PS if you die to any mobile assassin post 6, you deserve to for not knowimg how to play the lane. I won't tolerate a Ziggs walking right up to be and autoing me thinking he ain't gonna get something in return. She already has the WORST laning phase of ANY assassin. Post 6 is all she's got.