Junglers like to think they are gods and this kinda bothers me

s LessThanThree·Oct 28, 2014·1 votes·754 views

Whenever you have a complaint about your jungler, they are going to say "Blaming the jungler, how typical", when in reality THEY HAVE MADE MISTAKES. When you legitimately do things wrong, having that as an excuse is pathetic. For example we had a Lee Sin last game that did not gank until level 6, which completely defeats the purpose of having a Lee Singa on your team. I didn't say anything but at the end of the game he blamed me (even though I won lane). Bot was losing hard and we lost cuz their ADC got huge. He should have done something about it but didn't and let Draven snowball.

Pls don't think the jungler can't make mistakes or throw/lose the game

8 Comments

4nth0l0gyOct 28, 201410 votes

CrazyHollowOct 28, 20145 votes

There are a couple things about this post that bother me. Firstly is that you seem to blame your jungler for bot losing. Its not the junglers job to win your lane, yes they can pressure but you have to realize that time spent in lane is time lost farming and junglers often get less money then other positions. Also going to a losing lane is very risky as you can easily die to counter ganks or find that your lane is too weak to follow up on any play you try to make. Bot lane in particular is hard to gank when losing cause supports often have either good cc or peel so if your lane is behind they can easily turn it on you and potentailly come out even further ahead. Second what bothers me is that you say you didn't say anything. If you notice a problem its up to you to be vocal about it. You don't have to be a dick, there are plenty of ways of making suggestions without coming out like a douche. You can simply ask your jungler to help bot and even offer your own assistance since you say you were winning lane. Which brings up my final point. YOU were winning lane...so why didnt you go help. its not all on the jungler to help. If your winning lane it shouldn't be that hard to go help other lanes. If you top you can tp down to help and if your mid you can roam. Call your jungler to join you and make it a 4v2 take the lane and then get dragon. The point is that if YOU want to win its up to you to make it happen not say what others could/should be doing.

Drunk RummateOct 28, 20144 votes

Yes, junglers make mistakes. So do laners. Everyone makes mistakes, which is fine.

What isn't fine if you think it's your duty to point out every mistake your teammates make. They know they made a mistake, they're the same ELO that you are. Telling them how bad they're doing will only hurt their mentality and decrease your chances of winning. You're literally reducing your chances of winning by telling that Lee how poorly he is doing, even if you're correct and he's playing poorly.

Blue101Oct 28, 20143 votes

I think the the blame game, should not be played in game. Antagonizing players over their "mistakes" in game is not constructive and will not help you win the game. If you really want to help other people play better save your feedback on their play until after the game is over. This is coming from my experience in a ranked 5's, team telling someone that they made poor plays in game will more than likely make them play worse that game not better. However, talking about it after the game is over can really help people grow as players of the game. It is for this reason that I wish we had re-plays. (they help to keep everyone on the same page when discussing what happened in game)

TehNACHOOct 28, 20142 votes

I think you're overgeneralizing things...

For example, did your Lee Sin really not gank until level 6 or was he counterjungling until Level 6. While Lee Sin arguably is a powerful early game ganker, this is mostly because he's a good early game fighter in general, and so counterjungling is another viable option for him. Or, did he realize the enemy team has a lot of non-movement speed based abilities (dashes and flashes, for example) that his Cripple can't abuse (seriously, try to think if the enemy team had any significant dashes/flashes that would make a Lee Sin gank less viable) and thus he really needed to get his Ultimate to bring valuable CC to a gank? Maybe he did actually gank other lanes but you didn't notice (this actually is much more common than you may expect).

Look, I'm not saying you're wrong, there ARE Junglers who just flat out make the wrong moves and never pay up for it. Just, please, as a Jungler main who makes *questionable choices that I'm more than willing to explain if asked, don't aim at every Jungler out there.

s LessThanThreeOct 28, 20141 votes

He did not counterjungle and I did not talk shit the entire game or point out mistakes I'm just now analyzing it post game please learn to read the original post

Blue101Oct 28, 20141 votes

This is NOT clear in your original post. You should edit it so no one else is confused.