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The ban and restriction system needs immediate, severe improvement

s LessThanThree··71 votes·15,716 views

After 3-4 years of actively playing this game, I received my first suspension yesterday evening. It's only for 2 weeks so I wouldn't particularly care, but I was in the middle of an excellent win streak (7-0 with Jayce, and only 2 losses overall like 12 games), so after soaring from Plat 5 to Plat 3 over 2 days I was hoping to make it to Diamond before season end. It is not obvious I stand no chance of getting Diamond in Season 4 as my suspension will be lifted November 13th, 2 days after season end.

This thread is not about "I didn't deserve my ban Lyte smite me" or anything, if I got a suspension, I clearly did something wrong and I remember times when I lost my cool, so clearly I deserved it. This thread is about how Riot SERIOUSLY NEEDS to improve the ban system.

For one, e-mail I received from Riot once I got my ban was painfully vague. It did not even state what I got reported for (I'm assuming Verbal Abuse because I never afk or grief).

The ban system is completely broken and flawed, and I am going to explain to you exactly why.

The current system promotes the exact same toxicity that gets people reported and banned. The system is no better than the raging griefers you get matched with or against in Ranked games.

Why? Because it gives you no explanation as to how you can improve. It simply hands out a punishment the same way a rager might call you "trash" or other ways to insult your bad play or intelligence. To call someone out on a bad play is totally fine, as long as you CONSTRUCTIVELY EXPLAIN WHY IT WAS A BAD PLAY. You can say someone is playing like shit, but you absolutely need to seriously provide the other party with a clear way to improve. They need to understand why going to that baron and throwing the game was a mistake. They need to understand what exactly they did wrong. Simply calling someone bad in a game is abuse, while explaining to someone why they are not good thus providing them with areas they can improve upon may be harsh, but it is at least constructive.

This is not what the ban system does, it simply tells you you are suspended and leaves you guessing as to why you were suspended.

I remember times I was a d!ck and times I got angry because people were trash talking me in games. My main mistake was not muting those that were toxic to me. If I just muted rather than replied, I may not have gotten banned and lost my chance at diamond for season 4. However, this is just a guess, as Riot does not provide any evidence for your ban.

To be able to thoroughly improve your behavior and conduct you must know EXACTLY what you did wrong. Why not provide the case that the tribunal reviewed to punish you in the e-mail? Why not show your chat log so you can review the case as if you were a member of the tribunal, like the player was someone else, and decide, would you punish that player for what they did, or forgive?

This kind of self-review is impossible as Riot doesn't explain what you get banned for, and therefore is no better than the toxic players who abuse you and send you on tilt, and cause a cycle of abuse to circulate through the community.

I am generally a positive player who promotes good attitude and knows the secret to victory lies in teamwork, but I admit I can get angry and say some pretty harsh things, and this ban will make me watch my tongue, but really it gives me more of a fear of speech. I would significantly rather see what exactly I said in those games so I can think "Damn, I can't believe I really said that! I was so stupid!" and avoid such behavior in the future.

As someone whose road to Diamond was gimped by a ban, I would much like to see the system improved to facilitate self improvement in the future rather than being a punishment and nothing else.

Toxicity doesn't win games Vayne yes I'm looking at you adc mains

141 Comments

Matthias91197 votes

You CAN get chat logs, you just have to ask Support for them. Or maybe @RiotLyte will show up here and post some. If you do put in a Support ticket, SPECIFICALLY and DIRECTLY ask for chat logs. If you send them a giant wall of text or vaguely ask "why was I banned?" you'll get back a canned "you were banned for violating the Summoner's code..." type of response.

When Tribunal is back up, punished players will automatically receive a better explanation of what lead to their ban. Riot has stated that right now it is difficult for their staff to manually pull and anonymize chat logs from individual games, which is why they are only doing this if a player specifically asks for them. Otherwise they will end up spending all their time assembling chat logs rather than actually dealing with player issues.

That said, given the length of time that Tribunal has been down they really should have come up with a better system for giving better explanations as to exactly why players were banned.

s LessThanThree6 votes

I hope you are right Matthias9119. I would like to see what I said in particular. I know I said something, but it is important to see what.

I certainly hope the ban system is not automated (cuz that just allows people to group up on you).

If it's done by staff members, I don't know if it's the best considering they are gonna have a lot of reports to deal with so it won't get thoroughly review.

To be honest the Tribunal was a better system than the current one.

Matthias91199 votes

Riot has repeatedly stated that the 2-week bans are all manually reviewed. Some chat restrictions might go out completely automatically, but that's about it. There have been a few mistakes that slipped through the review process, but the ones I saw were all unusual cases (e.g. there was one where a player was sarcastically raging at himself repeatedly and the reviewer didn't catch it.)

When Tribunal was up there was no shortage of "ZOMG TRIBUNAL JUST SPAMS PUNISH WHY IS RIOT TOO CHEAP TO REVIEW CASES TEMSELVES!!!" complaints. Despite Riot always saying they were much stricter than the consensus of the community when they reviewed things themselves.

Be careful what you wish for...

RiotSlumber Jack18 votes

Hi there!

I'm in a slight rush, but I thought it'd be more appropriate for me to drop in real quickly than say nothing at all.

When the Tribunal went down for maintenance (because it was shoddy and not doing what it was supposed to be doing), so did our ability to send players emails and reform cards (context!) to let them know about what lead to their specific situation. We can still send those kind-of vague emails you're seeing to give you a general idea of what happened -- in this case, toxicity -- but until we have a "new" Tribunal or something similar it might be a bit before we can tie all the pieces of suspending a player back together.

I understand this isn't ideal; I once worked at a company where "the best support was no support" which means the users of a given product shouldn't have problems or confusion with the way things are done and be forced to write in. We also want to be able to give you everything you need so you don't have to write in to find out the nature of your suspension.

So I apologize and appreciate your guys' patience while the guys building the newer variation of the Tribunal get something up and running for you.

Oh, and just real quick: these particular suspensions are not automated. We look at the accounts to verify there were extreme cases of toxicity before we roll these out.

Hope this helps, and sorry again!

ShadowGlaive2133 votes

Is there an ETA on Tribunal yet? It's literally been several months that it's been out of commission now...

Daen6 votes

I thought it'd be more appropriate for me to drop in real quickly than say nothing at all.

Please continue this logic, and pass it on to everyone. This is absolutely the right approach, thank you.

When the Tribunal went down for maintenance (because it was shoddy and not doing what it was supposed to be doing)

What was shoddy about it?

Nucleophilic atk4 votes

It was shoddy that we actually received a personalized approached to our case. That had to be thrown out for the current copy and paste method.

ModUlanopo3 votes

Changes to the algorithm caused it to generate significantly fewer cases than it should, resulting in missed toxicity.

themaddscientist5 votes

It was moving a lot slower than it should have been. Most people who participated in it regularly saw the "we are building more cases" screen for a couple of months before the pulled the plug. It was a good system, but it wasn't designed to handle the kind of traffic that LoL has now. They were originally going to take it down some time in September rather than late spring, as a means to improve it, roll it out to every region and overall revamp it, but the fact that it was acting slowly forced their hand early, so instead of having everything act slower, they decided to implement different ideas they had been testing, such as the chat restrictions and 14-day ban escalations while it was down for maintenance. The only problem is that they fell into the lack of communication problem that we often see from Riot, which is unfortunate, but just from seeing the responses on the old player behavior forums, it seems to be working out fairly well. No idea when it will be back up, as it needs to scale with a lot more than it needed to and be applied across all regions, but I'm banking on it being back either winter or spring 2015 (I AM NOT A RIOTER NOR DO I SPEAK FOR THEM, DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THAT)

Chaos Anagram3 votes

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Kantala3 votes

You'll need to send in a support ticket and ask specifically for chat logs. No fluff, just directly ask for chat logs.

Anomander2 votes

^this

Vesper1177 votes

Why was Riot so adamant the Tribunal was working as intended for years before doing a complete 180, removing it, and saying it was flawed?

I figured it was doing its job pretty well, something Riot assured everyone was true...but now the system "was shoddy and not doing what it was supposed to be doing".

Jubbinaut3 votes

That's because it was working as intended for years. Then it developed a bug, a flaw, that caused it to stop working properly. They haven't stated what the specific issue was, but have indicated that it was causing the Tribunal to build cases far more slowly than it should have been.

I've heard some speculation that it was related to the growth of the game (and subsequently, the drastic increase in overall reports) just overwhelming the system. But as far as I can tell, that's purely speculation.

Junkο1 votes

Tribunal was NEVER working as intended. It used to have a 5 IP reward for each player that you punished/pardoned that the majority agreed with you. The result was a ton of people insta punishing in the tribunal just for the IP, and a lot of people got banned even if they shouldn't have been. Then they removed that and literally nobody started using the tribunal, and those who did were insta punishers who didn't realize the IP rewards were taken out. Eventually only 1% of the playerbase used the tribunal, which was too little for such a huge game(this eventually lead to Tribunal being overloaded since there were too many cases).

Jubbinaut1 votes

If you're not going to bother sourcing that, I'm not going to bother even discussing the parts I know to be false from personal experience.

Although, I will note that "being overloaded" from too many cases is pretty much the exact opposite of what was wrong with the Tribunal. So. Y'know. There's that.

Junkο1 votes

because "Sorry we don't have any cases" totally appeared because the Tribunal had 0 cases despite the fact that millions of people play this game and back when this game wasn't as big as it was there were a ton of tribunal cases every day

Jubbinaut1 votes

Because "Sorry we don't have any cases" is totally the error code one would see when there are too many cases.

The Tribunal was building cases too slowly. They haven't explained why, though I doubt having too many cases caused it to build cases more slowly. That's complete nonsense.

Now, having too many reported games might have something to do with it - increased parse time due to an over-rapid influx of new data (not unlike a DDoS attack).

I'm still waiting for the sourcing for your other claims, by the way.

Junkο1 votes

For the 5 IP per correct case? Just type "Tribunal 5 ip reward" on google.

Jubbinaut2 votes

Ooh, nice one. I like how you manage to seem to be actually addressing what I said while actually ignoring the vast majority of what was implied by my statement.

No, I'm not asking you to source the 5IP rewards from... what? 3 years ago?

I'm asking you to source this:

Then they removed that and literally nobody started using the tribunal

And this:

and those who did were insta punishers who didn't realize the IP rewards were taken out

And this:

Eventually only 1% of the playerbase used the tribunal

Xengre2 votes

Hi there!

I'm in a slight rush, but I thought it'd be more appropriate for me to drop in real quickly than say nothing at all.

When the Tribunal went down for maintenance (because it was shoddy and not doing what it was supposed to be doing), so did our ability to send players emails and reform cards (context!) to let them know about what lead to their specific situation. We can still send those kind-of vague emails you're seeing to give you a general idea of what happened -- in this case, toxicity -- but until we have a "new" Tribunal or something similar it might be a bit before we can tie all the pieces of suspending a player back together.

I understand this isn't ideal; I once worked at a company where "the best support was no support" which means the users of a given product shouldn't have problems or confusion with the way things are done and be forced to write in. We also want to be able to give you everything you need so you don't have to write in to find out the nature of your suspension.

So I apologize and appreciate your guys' patience while the guys building the newer variation of the Tribunal get something up and running for you.

Oh, and just real quick: these particular suspensions are not automated. We look at the accounts to verify there were extreme cases of toxicity before we roll these out.

Hope this helps, and sorry again!

Gee... the Tribunal wasn't doing what it was intended to do? Why am I not surprised even though I discussed this issue in the past many times and eventually even got a temp ban for warning trolls why I was reporting them with specifics just to get a reply from Lyte stating telling others you will report them is ban worthy even though they are the one trolling you, sometimes to extremes. Oh, he also lied about those games having premade mass spam reports even though I offered proof.

Sadly, the new system is actually WORSE as machine learning is being utilized improperly and is thus prone to erroneous results, that is false bans. Of course, Riot refuses to discuss this problem even though there is proof of this as well.

ModPeriscope1 votes

the best support was no support

So.... you worked at Comcast?

Eidorno376 votes

I just got a 2-week ban too, my third one, no idea why. I just make a new account and take my anger out on new players. That's what I'm supposed to do, right?

ValyrianBlade5 votes

The tribunal is not currently active.

I would assume you're not told exactly why because it may lead to people figuring out exactly what they can get away with and pushing things to the limit, getting retaliation and overall hurting the game experience.

That said, I still upvoted. I think, if what you say is true, riot could give a better indication of what was wrong. It would definitely at least reduce confusion.

Overall though, there is a huge difference between being a generally positive player and actually having a positive attitude. I'd imagine those in the latter never have any problems.

Nucleophilic atk3 votes

I also think the system is heavily flawed, mostly from the support end. Even when you send a support ticket you get no response back. It is highly frustrating. I received a chat restriction, which was deserved, then completed my games only to receive another one. I don't think I was toxic at all during those games, so I asked to see the logs as to why they think I deserved another ban. I get nothing. Not getting any type of insight as to why you were banned really just makes you go into a "I'm just not going to talk, mute all my teammates, and lose games from lack of communication" rather than just seeing what was the exact reason you were banned, at least in my opinion.

PimperGnome3 votes

"You can say someone is playing like shit" um...no...you can't.

"while explaining to someone why they are not good thus providing them with areas they can improve upon may be harsh, but it is at least constructive." No...it's not. After the game sending messages about things you noticed they can attempt to do to improve is one thing...sitting there explaining "why they are not good" is another.

"This is not what the ban system does, it simply tells you you are suspended and leaves you guessing as to why you were suspended." - I have never seen this to be the case EVER. People know when they berate...people know when they keep DCing...pure and simple.

"I am generally a positive player who promotes good attitude and knows the secret to victory lies in teamwork, but I admit I can get angry and say some pretty harsh things, and this ban will make me watch my tongue, but really it gives me more of a fear of speech. I would significantly rather see what exactly I said in those games so I can think "Damn, I can't believe I really said that! I was so stupid!" and avoid such behavior in the future. " - No offense...but you already said telling people they're terrible and that they're 'enter bad word here' is ok. No...it's not ok. You already know EXACTLY what you can do to not be banned again.

s LessThanThree3 votes

"You can say someone is playing like shit" um...no...you can't.

"while explaining to someone why they are not good thus providing them with areas they can improve upon may be harsh, but it is at least constructive." No...it's not. After the game sending messages about things you noticed they can attempt to do to improve is one thing...sitting there explaining "why they are not good" is another.

"This is not what the ban system does, it simply tells you you are suspended and leaves you guessing as to why you were suspended." - I have never seen this to be the case EVER. People know when they berate...people know when they keep DCing...pure and simple.

"I am generally a positive player who promotes good attitude and knows the secret to victory lies in teamwork, but I admit I can get angry and say some pretty harsh things, and this ban will make me watch my tongue, but really it gives me more of a fear of speech. I would significantly rather see what exactly I said in those games so I can think "Damn, I can't believe I really said that! I was so stupid!" and avoid such behavior in the future. " - No offense...but you already said telling people they're terrible and that they're 'enter bad word here' is ok. No...it's not ok. You already know EXACTLY what you can do to not be banned again.

If you're too sensitive to handle the truth you aren't ready for the real world.

Anyway, I never said it's okay to call people "no skill trash f*ggts you suck d!ck"

Accepting that you aren't good at something is the first step to improving in that area. Saying "bro you're really playing badly this game, x, x, and x, could have been done differently, next time do y and y" is not verbal abuse.

My point is ^ the above should not be considered verbal abuse, but I don't know what Riot considers to be that. I'm sure what I said to get banned was really toxic (I remember some things from the last week), but is the above toxic? I don't know. Nobody knows.

Matthias91192 votes

My point is ^ the above should not be considered verbal abuse, but I don't know what Riot considers to be that. I'm sure what I said to get banned was really toxic (I remember some things from the last week), but is the above toxic? I don't know. Nobody knows.

I've never personally seen anyone punished for a statement like that. As long as you are explaining things calmly and sticking to the facts, giving advice or even criticism can be fine. But a couple of related points:

  1. If someone is getting upset about what you are saying -- even if you feel you are objectively right and your intent wasn't to call them out or shame them -- you should drop it.

  2. Harping on someone about mistakes or bad play all game long -- again, even if you feel you're 100% objectively correct -- can be considered verbal abuse.

  3. I always advise people to be very, very careful with anything like saying someone is "feeding" or "throwing", since these carry extremely negative connotations and players may think you're going to report them.

ModUlanopo7 votes

If you're too sensitive to handle the truth you aren't ready for the real world.

I always hate it when people say this, because it's simply incorrect. In League, there is no "truth" for you to impart. You have opinions, preferences and perspectives, none of which are absolute truth.

For example, there's a tendency to tell people who are losing lanes to play defensively. Sometimes this works, but sometimes it leads to a worse situation where the enemy is allowed to free-farm. Seeing as how you're not their coach, they're not under any obligation to listen to you. In fact, trying to coach mid-game is almost always ineffective and often leads to increased conflict between players - something the rules explicitly warn you to avoid.

I would save the advice until the post-game.

"bro you're really playing badly this game..."

This is spectacularly unhelpful.

SmokingPuffin3 votes

To call someone out on a bad play is totally fine, as long as you CONSTRUCTIVELY EXPLAIN WHY IT WAS A BAD PLAY. You can say someone is playing like shit, but you absolutely need to seriously provide the other party with a clear way to improve. They need to understand why going to that baron and throwing the game was a mistake. They need to understand what exactly they did wrong. Simply calling someone bad in a game is abuse, while explaining to someone why they are not good thus providing them with areas they can improve upon may be harsh, but it is at least constructive.

Don't do this. 9 times out of 10 it will only make the situation worse.

I remember times I was a d!ck and times I got angry because people were trash talking me in games. My main mistake was not muting those that were toxic to me. If I just muted rather than replied, I may not have gotten banned and lost my chance at diamond for season 4. However, this is just a guess, as Riot does not provide any evidence for your ban.

Right. This is a significant downside to the new system. The old Tribunal system had reform cards that you could look at to see examples of what you did wrong.

I am generally a positive player who promotes good attitude and knows the secret to victory lies in teamwork, but I admit I can get angry and say some pretty harsh things, and this ban will make me watch my tongue, but really it gives me more of a fear of speech. I would significantly rather see what exactly I said in those games so I can think "Damn, I can't believe I really said that! I was so stupid!" and avoid such behavior in the future.

I have noticed many people are reporting this speech chilling effect under the new system. It's something Riot should look into mitigating.

ModUlanopo3 votes

As someone whose road to Diamond was gimped by a ban, I would much like to see the system improved to facilitate self improvement in the future rather than being a punishment and nothing else.

Warnings and chat restrictions are used when Riot believes that there is a meaningful chance of reform. These 2-week bans are explicitly used as a "last chance" before permanent account closure. They are applied because the frequency or intensity of the behavior (or a combination of the two) leads them to believe that the likelihood of reform is low and the damage that is being done to the community warrants a strong response.

CoolKnightST3 votes

In my opinion their are 3 sort of flamers:

  • Unfocussed Flamers (often jungle or top): Players that outplay/win their lane or their position. Thinking the game is already won. They let their guard down and get ganked or catched by the enemy team.
  • Carried Flamers (often midlane or adc): Players that get carried by their jungler or support not realizing they get carried. Than in a later stage of the game. They get outplayed because the enemy was just more skilled than them.
  • Suppress Flamers (often support): Players that previously had a fell lost games because someone afk, trolled or just did something that shouldn't be tolerated in that ELO. Than someone afk, trolls or does something stupid.

In both 3 cases the player deserves a report. However people tend to counter report other players that report them for their behavior. But they don't stop their. For a while now I start to notice players start to abuse the report system even further by reporting players that just have a bad game or play a role where they are not that familiar with.

But they don't stop their. People start to realise. The only way to see punishment to a player is to report them for verbal abuse. Whenever they troll, afk or just don't like them in chat. Now with the ranked restrictions it became even more attractive to abuse the function.

A example: In my last 10 games I decided to pratice my worst role (adc). I had some lags so my game didn't go that well. I tried to focus on the game and in most games I didn't even say a word. Most of them where flamers anyway. It even came that far I starting to use the ignore button. After my 10th game I recieved a warning I was reported for verbal abuse a fell times the last fell games...

This was just proof that players prefer the verbal abuse button. There really should be placed a punishment on it.

Yoella3 votes

Toxicity doesn't win gamesVayne yes I'm looking at you adc mains

Oh. My. God. This is so true, I know one friendly person who mains ADC and every other person I've come across that claims to "main ADC" has been a dick on a stick.

s LessThanThree2 votes

There have been times I've been jokingly raging at someone who was raging back, and things like that, and there have been times I've said something like "Fiora is trash lol" 10 minutes after she would non-stop harass half the team in all-chat to the point where I had to mute her to concentrate, and then get reported for the one joking comment I said to the Talon that was also harassed by her. Which doesn't really seem fair.

Do the reviewers only take what you say into consideration and is there a factor of "how much were you provoked? vs what you said?"

I know it's not right to get angry ever but honestly there have been people that say things A LOT WORSE than what I say, and still have gone without bans or chat restrictions

utDOOM2 votes

Do the reviewers only take what you say into consideration and is there a factor of "how much were you provoked? vs what you said?"

There isn't and there shouldn't be. If someone murders someone else, they will still be punished whether or not it was provoked. I know that's an extreme example, but you know what i'm trying to say.

Also, i'm an adc main and i'm nice :)

ModUlanopo2 votes

To be able to thoroughly improve your behavior and conduct you must know EXACTLY what you did wrong.

Reform cards will be returning with the new tribunal.

Nucleophilic atk1 votes

The new tribunal will be returning when I make the LCS.

ModUlanopo2 votes

The new tribunal will be returning when I make the LCS.

When I asked, I was told that the time frame was likely to be six months to a year. I later learned that a large part of the problem is that they want the new Tribunal to be applied uniformly across all regions (it doesn't exist in some places), which is a huge undertaking. Given that we just hit the six-month mark, perhaps a little patience is in order.

My IGN Sucks2 votes

It all boils down to the lack of specificity. Riot doesn't want to outline specific behaviors that are deemed toxic because they want the community to decide. Well, that's exactly what the Tribunal was for. Their philosophy worked when the Tribunal was up and running, not so much when they took it down.

Absozero2 votes

I agree. I had a similar terrible experience yesterday with a 2 week ban.

I'm not sure I qualify as an "extreme case of toxicity". I'm an openly gay Atheist and often times when someone says fag, homo, gay, etc, I tend to say something in chat, usually by self identifying as a gay man. Especially as a gay man living with HIV. Often times, people flame me more and then report me after those games. I'm afraid that your system is wrongly blaming the victim in these instances of "mob mentality" that I often run into in league. Open your mouth, critique a word or call in game and the mob comes for you with the "report" button.

I'm disappointed that this is how you are choosing to conduct your business.

SlayerofLegends2 votes

Sorry if this is old, sounding like the standard rager complaining, off-topic or I'm just misinformed.

I've been almost-consecutively hit by three 2-week bans in the past 3 months (as in, with a gap of around 2 days). Although I will honestly and completely admit that I was pretty damn toxic in my previous games before the first ban, I have not done something I feel is even NEAR what can be considered "extreme toxicity".

Is it far, far easier to be banned subsequently after your original ban? If this is the case I think the margin should be.. raised? Because honestly, I played two games after my second ban, and both of them were unparalleled successes.

I've sent some questions to support but they just send me chat logs from pre-first-ban. I'm honestly not sure.

Chaos Anagram2 votes

Hey @anyRioterlistening are we going to get our season rewards? the banned people that is. I know i was toxic, but that doesn't mean I didn't work all year THROUGH the toxicity of other players to end up empty handed because I was on tilt and some 13 year old kid ticked me off. people get mad, I've seen Riot employees in my games do it, I've seen grown adults do it. Why do we get punished and lose our rewards because a single ban when our accounts haven't previously been banned.

Also look into CST Sheep's chat logs 3 days ago in a ranked 5's game around this time, If you want to see toxic. he straight up told a friend of mine who was streaming "your mom's P**** rides on my stolen acct." thats okay and should be pardoned though right?

Vestroy2 votes

Well some of the system is in place just for placebo. For example, the unskilled player option....just there so people can vent and feel better if they had a bad ADC or tank for example.

Troll for Trump2 votes

Automation on Chat Restrictions in small increments are Op.

Happy Jack2 votes

Agreed w/ OP for the most part. I wrote a post about some of the improvements here;

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/UwReYsGe-recent-account-suspensions-poorly-implemented

Zen Fury1 votes

If you got a two week suspension, then it isn't your first. Either that, or you did/said something that was so bad or were reported an ungodly number of times that they thought you needed a 2 week ban to cool your heels.

Matthias91196 votes

Not necessarily true. Riot has been going straight to 2-week bans in "extreme" cases while Tribunal is down.

Verminous1 votes

Well another problem is now you have to be careful about even joking around. Like you can't say something jokingly. Like you I understand I do get annoyed at bad players so I accept my 2 week ban, but I believe the main issue were a couple jokes I made in a recent hexakill game. I just so happen to call Tryndamere, Tryndaqueer which they find to be homophobic even though I didn't mean it that way as I do have friends who are gay, bi, and lesbian.

Then there's the fact that I said jokingly(which I was playing Ziggs) "I'm gonna bomb you so hard you'll look like Hiroshima." So that classified as racist even though it wasn't meant in any racist way. In fact I didn't even get reported that game that I remember because people understood I wasn't serious. Why would I be racist and have friends of severl different ethnicities? Anyway I do understand I deserved it for getting annoyed with certain players, but not all the reasons they noted.

Nucleophilic atk2 votes

Well, rito doesn't know what kind of friends you have. Also, do you think someone from Japan would think that is a funny joke?

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