"I don't take cover, I take cover out"
I really want a series of champions that focus on debuffing MR and Defense. I really think they'd be helpful in being glue for solo-queue team compositions.
Pandemic Punch7 votesTaric is not pleased.
TheDuelist9994 voteswhat is trundle ult?????
RavenKouhai2 votesLike tanks aren't already fucked enough with BOTRK and void staff.
Rebonack2 votesI got a comment from FeralPony some time ago that an ability akin to Soraka's old Starcall might make a comeback on a tank/support at some point. That combined with a stacking single-target %Armor shred ability as the main skills on a champ would be neat.
junglerboy162 votesBasically, you want Kayle, Ryze, Trundle, Darius, etc. etc.... Trundle is basically the GO TO champion for debuffs, he has an AD sap, and steals armor, mr and health with his ult. If anything, there are too many ways to "take cover out" already, tanks are super weak, and armor pen and reduction is far too strong.
Jubbinaut1 votesSo... Kayle?
phatcat091 votesCause Kayle's kit is centered around debuffs?
darkdill1 votesI'll see what I can come up with. Something with a Voodoo vibe ought to do the trick. ;)
Jubbinaut4 votesKayle's passive shreds Armor and MR on auto-attacks. Her Q applies a stack of it. Her E increases the range on her auto-attacks, allowing her to apply her passive from further away.
Her W (heal + MS steroid) and R (invulnerability) are sustain/survival utility, which keep her alive and applying her shred. So... yes?
Meep Man1 votesKayle's passive shreds Armor and MR on auto-attacks. Her Q applies a stack of it. Her E increases the range on her auto-attacks, allowing her to apply her passive from further away.
Her W (heal + MS steroid) and R (invulnerability) are sustain/survival utility, which keep her alive and applying her shred. So... yes?
Kayle only really has the passive to make her a potential hybrid which was her original plan (a hybrid champion). I think if Riot were to redesign her, she would get a different passive.
Jubbinaut1 votesSo you're saying, "No, because if she was reworked she'd be different"?
I just want to be sure that I'm understanding you right, because that doesn't seem entirely relevant.
I mean, I see how that passive - combined with her scaling - allows for a hybrid build, but I don't see how she doesn't fit your desires here.
I admit I may be viewing it from a somewhat biased perspective, as I tend to play her with a focus on abusing her passive to melt tanks by eating through their defenses for my team (my build commonly includes at least two of: BotRK, Runaan's, Wit's, Cleaver).
Meep Man1 votesEh, I see it as a potential support, but it would need to not have too much crowd control otherwise it would be top tier right now since penetration is really good. It could also be a Top Laner, but I don't know. A Top Lane that removed resistances would be really good. I would play it.
EzraTwitch1 votesSo like Trundle?
Meep Man1 votesTrue true, I had forgotten about the troll for a minute there. Yeah, Trundle. He removes it AND steals it. Even health he steals.
MrBuffington1 votesFiddlesticks used to have this on his passive; Riot changed it though. Also Amumu and Kayle shred defenses with their autos.
Yoella1 votesYou mean Taric?
RoyaiChaos1 votesidk, the problem with that is that it doesn't* feel* all that impactful so that it's difficult to see how much they're really helping in a fight.
Akesgeroth1 votesYou know what's fun? Trying to play a tank which does no damage while the already impotent defenses you built get removed with the press of a button.
Edbwn1 votesNunu shreds your attack speed, Trundle shreds armor, mr, ad, and % max hp, kog already destroys tanks, Amumu reduces MR on hit and deals % max health damage, kayle shreds armor and mr on hit, Xin Zhao's Challenge shreds armor to one target, Yasuo gets 50%bonus armor pen after his ult, Darius ignores armor, what else do you want dude? ._.
PS: I thought and hoped you were gonna say we need a champion that can temporarily destroy terrain :D
UdoIkOSc4u1 votes