Why are 99% of the CertainlyT haters...

Arsames··2 votes·726 views

low elo noobs, ARAM spammers, or people who play 0 mechonix and 0 skill champs like Nasus Annie Mordekaiser ?

Oh yeah, because most CertainlyT champions scale with SKILL, bad players can't play those champs to their max potential, but get owned by those who can, and thus they hate on that which they can't obtain.

I love playing vs Yasuo Thresh Zed (mostly designed by Samizul) Kalista because those champs can be outplayed and have a lot of counterplay, it is skill that decides fights vs these champions.

Darius Zyra are outdated and very easy to counter, his older champs, need reworks.

CertainlyT, if there is a god, may he bless you, you are the best designer in this game, I love you and hate anyone who hates you and your champions :^) I can't wait to see your next champ!

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The Whamboozler7 votes

Your logic is faulty. If the people complaining about those champs are all low elo trash then their MMR means they are mostly matched up AGAINST low Elo trash. So either those champs have so much utility, mobility and overloaded stuff in their kit that even trash can play them well, or your skill argument falls apart.

Overloaded champs aren't cancer only when the people playing them are skilled. They are cancer in any match up of equally skilled players, since they have so many more options than more binary "easy" champs. In fact, it's the "easy" champs who are often brought out to counter those hyper-mobile dash-spammers. Annie shits on Yasuo pretty hard. So by your logic if these champs are "super high skill OMG" then surely they lose all the time in bronze, right?

Except LoLking is telling me that Yasuo has a HIGHER winrate in bronze than in diamond. Hmmmmm... Maybe... just maybe... all this overloaded kit BS is better at creaming low Elo players who don't know how to deal with it, rather than high elo players who will just lock in a "noob champ" counter and wreck his world, then never let him back into the game. Bronze players, even against a subpar yas making a ton of mistakes, don't know how to shut him down and end the game before he matters again... and eventually he will. Why? Well because of his kit. Shut down Zed and he can split push. Shut down Kali and... she's an adc... her endgame is strong by default. Shut down Darius and he builds tank and still has his dunk to finish off kills. (Also, who the heck is complaining about Darius? He's the most kited man alive) Shut down thresh and... he's a support, who cares? All he needs is CC and a lucky hook to matter. Even Zyra has a tone of CC to use and win fights, even if she's behind. In fact her utility is so strong she's played as support when she was meant to be (and originally had the scalings of) a mage! She's still one of the most damage-dealing supports in the game.

What your post is, is poorly veiled elitism hidden under a defense post for your favorite overloaded champs. Sure, a diamond Yas player will shit all over bronze players with him... but a diamond player will probably shit all over bronze players no matter what he's playing. That doesn't make him a high skill champ... it makes him a pubstomper. He's right there with Yi and Katarina. High skill champs too, right?

But go on. Look up my elo and post about it and how not playing ranked much makes me automatically wrong about everything. You'll just be proving my point that this post was all about fluffing yourself and acting smug about rankings than anything of merit. The champs you mentioned are overloaded. They can do a ton of things that other champions simply CANNOT do. It's not just CertainlyT. All the new champs tend towards over-complicated mechanics and overloaded kits full of mobility, utility, burst and all that nonsense. Example: Ekko . It's simply fact. It's clearly the way they're taking the game. But that doesn't mean a person playing Taric getting outplayed by a Thresh means the Taric player is noob. Taric is VERY mechanically simple... but that means he can't DO much to thresh without thresh having an answer for it. It doesn't mean that the bronze Taric auto-wins vs the bronze thresh because thresh is more complicated. In a lot of cases, the older, "simpler" noob champ has a much, MUCH harder time in the match up because of how limited his options are.

And if your answer to that is "Well Taric is awful, it's their fault for picking him"... then you're saying that those overloaded champs ARE superior. Because that is what people are complaining about, my elitist friend. That they can't pick champs they like and survive against these overloaded champs with insane kits. Maybe that bronze 5 player would LOVE to play a simple champ and not have to deal with complicated mechanics and kits... but if he doesn't... odds are the overloaded one will ruin him. And it WON'T be because his Bronze 5 opponent is a god with them. It's because they're just BETTER. And THAT is the problem.

Rikari1 votes

I'm hella late but i just saw this post. exclusive footage of a bronze 5 brat dominating with Kalista,designed by whom? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/227474696?champion=429&matchType=2

ZephyrDrake5 votes

yes, so much counterplay to one of the most powerful supports and ADCs at the moment so much skill so much wow

AtheosisX4 votes

It's because he makes overloaded champs that are overpowered unless their numbers are destroyed, at which point they become underpowered. Another way to put it is that he makes flashy champs that are not good for the health of the game. Your ideas of why people don't like CertainlyT are laughable.

Shadow Gilgamesh3 votes

Oh man I remembered to hit R again AFTER all my other keys, 10/10 good skill scaling Zed

Oh boy, I got the mechanic of clicking in between all my autos down, sure was good skill scalingKalista

I bought a crit item, such skill, very scaling Yasuo

CreationFlaw1 votes

item 3157 How to counter Zed.item 3140 item 3139 summoner 4

Arsames1 votes

{quoted}

item 3157 How to counter Zed.item 3140 item 3139 summoner 4

HOW TO COUNTER ZED?

  1. SIDESTEP HIS SHURIKEN = YOU OUTDAMAGE HIM.
  2. item 3191 = YOU OUTDAMAGE HIM
  3. item 3157 = HIS ULT IS USELESS
  4. item 3139 = HIS ULT IS USELESS
CreationFlaw1 votes

{quoted}

HOW TO COUNTER ZED?

  1. SIDESTEP HIS SHURIKEN = YOU OUTDAMAGE HIM.
  2. item 3191 = YOU OUTDAMAGE HIM
  3. item 3157 = HIS ULT IS USELESS
  4. item 3139 = HIS ULT IS USELESS

I mean, I did put 3/4 of those in my comment tho :?

And yeah, sidestepping that shuriken is ez af

Arsames1 votes

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I mean, I did put 3/4 of those in my comment tho :?

And yeah, sidestepping that shuriken is ez af

You did, but Flash doesn't count, everyone can have flash.

Dedrius1 votes

CertainlyT does make fun champions to play, it is hard to argue that. But when looking at someone like kalista, who he said was made for ADC's who can't kite well to practice on her, she has way too much mobility vs melees, and her rend is pretty silly as well.

He makes fun champions but they usually have very overloaded kits (ex. Thresh)

Arsames1 votes

{quoted}

CertainlyT does make fun champions to play, it is hard to argue that. But when looking at someone like kalista, who he said was made for ADC's who can't kite well to practice on her, she has way too much mobility vs melees, and her rend is pretty silly as well.

He makes fun champions but they usually have very overloaded kits (ex. Thresh)

Kalista has high mobility because she has low damage, a graves/lucian can blow melee up in a couple of seconds, cait and ashe too, but to a lesser degree. Kalista has high mobility and other penalties. Her mobility is strength, then lock her down with some CC before engaging and she is easy to kill. I play mostly melee champs and never cried about Kalista, because I understand her weaknesses and use that to my advantage.

Dedrius2 votes

Locking down any ADC with CC is an easy kill, so obviously the same goes for kalista, and saying she has low damage is just not true. You play mobile assassins not immobile melees like olaf, darius, trynd ect. so that is why you aren't really effected by her.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

stop, stop arguing even i who respect certainlyt can just admit that Kalista is cancer. i Thought that she had low damage but no she has exactly the same damage her spear does too much damage and man the mobility is just cancer. Now her AA does 90% of her damage we will see

Stars Shaper1 votes

Morde is my second main and I like how CertainlyT creates his champions D:

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