Man look at how much depth Thornmail adds to the game!

but its so fun watching any AD champ kill themselves

I am still collecting AD mid lane assasin tears - keep it

AD carry main detected.

people mad I'm calling them out on their bullshit

go ahead. make an actual argument for once.

I agree.

Let's make it return all sources of physical damage.

I want to watch Zed blow himself up on the Tank.

What a dumb post. How much "DEPTH" does add? How about ? Should we remove those as well?

It adds more depth than a lot of tank items because it adds risk to attacking the tank rather than just making the tank more survivable as other armor items do. If there's a tank with Randuin's you might not attack the tank because you don't think it's worth your time, or you'll just focus him down slowly because you're lazy and there's no risk to you anyway. Thornmail introduces much more serious decision-making about who you focus and objectively that's adding depth.

I'm sure it's frustrating to play against as an ADC but largely it just serves as a reminder that tanks aren't always the best people to focus down and you should really be looking at the squishier targets where possible. IMO that's a pretty fair thing for an item to do and it's not as impactful as it could be anyway considering how easy it is for ADCs to itemise large amounts of lifesteal. Can you think of an anti-AD item that adds more depth to the game than Thornmail? Because to me it wins very handily over Sunfire Cape and Frozen Heart, certainly it's at least on par with Randuin's.

p.s. you probably shouldn't complain about defensive items lacking gameplay when almost every ADC item is just a giant stat stick

Its a lot of fun. work around it and stop being a "nerf plz" bitch

Nice counterarguments guys

I'll be here when you think of an argument

I'm not sure what the argument here is.

Depth?

It's a counter to aa reliant champions with its passive with massive armor. Not much else to it.

Do we need to give it more, change it slightly, delete it completely? What?