This diccusion upvote feature is a complete farce

Pollyanna Wright·Feb 17, 2014·14 votes·347 views

All you do is see the same threads. If you want anything new you HAVE to change it to recent. Most people also don't even bother to upvote/downvote a thread at all.

You should have recent threads as the default and then an option to see the most popular. And EVEN THEN, that will get cluttered with out of date/unimportant threads because of changes. You would have to constantly make sure a thread is relevant in the "Best" (which I think is a horrible description of it) and remove threads that weren't. It's stupid.

12 Comments

Blunts4BrekfastFeb 17, 20143 votes

just make 50 accounts. upvote whatever you like. downvote whatever you dont. problem solved.

LargeKneeGrowFeb 17, 20141 votes

This guy right here. Also you I am guessing.

IonCannonKarthusFeb 17, 20142 votes

The trick is to generate an army and upvote/downvote certain threads to maintain balance.

ZzZosoZoosFeb 17, 20142 votes

Guess who just found out there is a button to change to recent.....

Sir ArmaMalumFeb 17, 20141 votes

Upvoting relevance is definitely a big debate, of which I personally don't have a strong opinion either way.

However, it actually isn't the Forum layout itself that's the problem with the Top "Best's", those are the result of someone going to GD or somewhere else in the old forum and people following a link, upvoting and then leaving. As well as the lack of general voting the Beta has a very (comparatively) small active community with brief bursts of a metric arse ton of people jumping over to support a single thread, resulting in 100+ upvoted posts stagnating at the top. If everyone that I personally see regularly participate in the Beta downvoted every one of them it wouldn't make a dent. Honestly I think we all already have.....

I actually agree that recent should be the default ordering, but honestly it's really not that big of a deal seeing as it's literally 2 clicks and it'll save your setting locally.

If you would like to see the Beta perform exactly like a forum should then provide constructive feedback and come here often to explore bugs, ideas and vote. And bring friends!

PheroFeb 18, 20141 votes

Upvoting relevance is definitely a big debate, of which I personally don't have a strong opinion either way.

What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Sir ArmaMalumFeb 18, 20141 votes

Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. Pffffft, heart? Who uses those anymore? :P

Honestly though both sides of the argument are valid, upvotes provide a way to funnel popular opinion to the top while simultaneously knocking down repeats and negatives, but runs a very easy danger of stifling unpopular but valid opinions.
Honestly I ran into this post that has a nice, simple compromise. Still involves upvotes but give it a read if you're interested.

Knight DevoutFeb 17, 20141 votes

If the purpose was to "filter" rants and rage threads, I think that this is even worse than the old solution. When a post reached 10 downvotes on old format it was automatically closed, but as long as people stopped posting in it, it would quickly drop off. So, after next Euw crash and/or massive downtime, when you will have 6 different rage/whine/compensation threads opened with 20 upvotes each, what will you do?

Sir ArmaMalumFeb 18, 20142 votes

I can speak with personal experience this does not happen, everyone gravitates to one thread and simply boosts that one. You get the occasional side post with 7 or 8 upvotes but the main one has 20+. The latest NA server issues were....fun..

Knight DevoutFeb 18, 20141 votes

Last big post on EuW about server downtime , which was written without too much rage or compensation demanding, had more than 600 uvpotes. Keep in mind that NA downtime is much less compared than EuW , while also having smaller peak time population(according to riot at least, I don't have any data about that).

Sir ArmaMalumFeb 18, 20141 votes

Oh I have no doubt, I've heard horror stories of EuW and I am aware NA servers have it easy.

I did not intend to say we have it anywhere close to EuW just that compared to the very small normal traffic in the Beta, the NA server issues brought in a huge spike in rage traffic, but one post was always singled out and that was what got any upvotes, the highest side post I saw got to 6 or or so. Granted higher traffic means higher numbers but I think it will scale the same imo.