I hear loads of Riven op

EvilRabbitt··0 votes·691 views

Sad thing is, Idk how to play her. Can someone gimme tips or something? I tried her a while back, but I could never seem to do well so I dropped her less than a week after I bought her (as opposed to my engage mages who I play to this day). Any help is appreciated. All I know is Black Cleaver/Ravenous Hydra+QQQ.

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Yash Gautam5 votes

I will never teach you how to play Riven because you may become a Riven main, the worst kind of person in the entire universe. Besides Teemo mains, of course...

EvilRabbitt1 votes
The Sword Saint4 votes

There is a lot you have to learn and practice to be able to play riven competently. It's true that a truly skilled riven player can take on almost any other champion and win but if you expect to just pick her up without dedicating yourself to her exclusively for at least a few months then I wouldn't bother with her in ranked.

Also, just about noone but other riven players will give you any respect for the amount of time and effort you put in learning her, you'll get shit talked anytime you lose lane and get dismissed as a facerolling noob anytime you win lane. Just comes with the territory.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

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Also, just about noone but other riven players will give you any respect for the amount of time and effort you put in learning her, you'll get shit talked anytime you lose lane and get dismissed as a facerolling noob anytime you win lane. Just comes with the territory.

So true :[

Any time I carry with riven I get shit on by the other team. Any time I lose with riven I get shit on by my team.

She's not exactly easy to play either. Her laning is balanced on a razor thin edge and her teamfighting can be very difficult to pull off.

Artishy3 votes

You build AD and GA on her, AD because you don't need hp. You're Shield has a very high AD ratio, which means the more damage you build, the tankier you get(One of the many reasons as to why she is OP). GA because once you get going, you WILL and most DEFINITELY WILL be targeted by EVERY OPPONENT WITH CC. If you're cc'ed you're done, that's why many riven players, even if they do kill many other opponents, it takes away XP from teammates, makes your team weaker by comparison, which gives you the pressure to carry them through, which means you're a higher threat to the enemy team, and riven does not do well under CC (This goes for every champion), which means once you die, you're team is screwed.

Let's start out by the laning phase, you should be careful to juggle your abilities, true riven players don't waste their abilities to just dash in, and they mostly only use the Q to dash in, instead of the E. That way you will always win the trade because you'll then be able to use your E to shield their harass.

Don't always go all in on your abilities unless you're sure you can get away safely, always ward to make sure the jungler isn't around, and in under certain circumstances, save a few dashes to get out. So basically use one q to dash in, W to stun, AA once or twice, and E away the return damage that they might offer.

Building CDR on her helps her dish out and take more damage by shielding, dashing, and... Dishing out tons of dmg. Your ultimate will almost always be up at lvl 16 with 40% cdr. It'll have a 30 second cooldown (Which is quite short IMO). You'll be able to shield damage many many times in a duel, As well as juggling CC with you're Q(Knockup), and W. Again as to why riven is so op. Much CC, Much shield tankiness, much mobility, AND she has an execution-type of ability, similar to garen & darius(Darius's is not really but w/e). That means the lower HP the target is, the more damage you'll do with your ultimate. Again one of the many reasons as to why she is op.

Again using you're E should mostly be used to block their damage output, E has a relatively large cooldown early game, and using it to dash just wastes it's immense usefulness.

You're able to cast 2 abilities at once using you're E, that way you can save (Alot of) time chasing people down, or running away. The combo is just simply E 'ing first and then the other ability of choice at almost the same time, but E going first. Usually alot of riven players E -> R so that they don't have to wait the channeling of the ulti to chase someone down and execute them, instead they Dash in and channel the ult at the same time to... save time.

Again most of riven's capabilities rest in on the person controlling her, this goes for all champions. You are not automatically good, but need to understand that sometimes there are global rules (And by global I mean this goes to all champions again) that you need to follow to make your game as successful as it can be.

Vision is extremely important, whether you are gaining it, or denying it. You can cut people off and assassinate them extremely well (Especially with Riven). If you are in lower ELO, you can wait to get you're 6, ward the enemy jungle and wait for their jungler to do a camp, then just jump in on them.

Again some of these include not dieing and knowing when to go in and when to not. Knowing the champion that you play increases the knowledge of how much damage you are able to pull out, to become successful in the fights and coming back out.

Again there are much more in-depth details that aren't even just riven-based, but they are globally out there open to all champions. Riven just really takes in these global rules of the game and amplifies it extremely well by snowballing if you follow the safety rules, and cheeses.

EvilRabbitt1 votes

THANK YOU. First serious response. =(

Anyway, can you explain why Trinity is bad on her? I'd think it would make her passive really good (q auto q auto q auto w auto e auto r auto etc). I get ap and mana are lost, but its a good bit of ad/hp/move/crit. And the passives.

LXII1 votes

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THANK YOU. First serious response. =(

Anyway, can you explain why Trinity is bad on her? I'd think it would make her passive really good (q auto q auto q auto w auto e auto r auto etc). I get ap and mana are lost, but its a good bit of ad/hp/move/crit. And the passives.

Because her whole thing is AD. You build a ton of AD on her and it scales beautifully into her kit. Triforce has 2 completelty useless stats for her (mana and AP) and costs too much to just be getting that spellblade and 30 AD out of it. Honestly though, there's too much to explain in text how to play Riven well, the best you can do is watch BRNA, BoxBox, or Revenge. Aside from that, YouTube, and a ton of practice. She's not nearly as easy as people will tell you she is, and a lot of skill goes into the "instakill" that everyone complains about. There are a ton of animation cancels that have to take place as well as using everything in the perfect order.

Edit: also if you're saving R for the end of a combo, you're doing it wrong.

Artishy1 votes

If you want Crit, go for ghostblade, you get a good movement speed active (Along with attack speed which helps you use your passive faster). It also gives good CDR (Which is a real + on riven).

Tri-force isn't as good because building items is a 'Global rule' of the game that i believe is extremely crucial. You only have a limited amount of gold (And time, this game is not about seconds but the milliseconds, dodging skillshots and such divides things into the super fast milliseconds that determines your fate) to farm up, and triforce is NOT cost-efficient for riven, you need to use your gold as efficiently as possible, and that means you gain more AD, CDR, and other stats just by NOT getting triforce. Now that doesn't mean tri-force isn't good on her, it can be because if you build straight AD, the sheen proc on it is just immense (I believe, haven't tested it). But the fact that you don't get as MUCH AD as you should be with that MUCH GOLD, means it's a dud and there are many other better choices, such as ravenous hydra, which adds an extra AA reset and dmg, with waveclear, LIFESTEAL <------, and the most important, AD.

Building a champion so that you can maximize their efforts to successfully win the game is one of the few 'global rules' to become successfull at this game.

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Last one, thanks for the tips. Totally different idea BUT (made 2 threads already, no need for more): Is this a good build/idea? I tried it and had loads of success- not to mention 5336 hp with 186 armor and 112 mr (or something very similar).

Leona summoner 4 summoner 11 item 3709 item 3401 item 3143 item 3102 (item 3190/ item 3075 ) item 3264 ((item 2138)) ? So far its worked, and you get an exhaust with a lower cooldown (for intents and purposes anyways, I rarely find chances for exhaust damage reduction to play in) and an upgraded sunfire cape....thoughts?

Artishy1 votes

Leona's early jungle clear speed might be VERY slow, but if you are able to get through the jungle and early game of this, it can be very beneficial as junglers are the main source of initiation for the team. Leona is a very good tanky initiator. But Leona should stay at bot lane because there are 'better' jungle choices that far exceed her clear speed, tankiness, damage, and utility.

You'll learn better the more you play the game and the more you understand that there's a cruel 'meta' to the game. But that's just how it is, there are some champions that do roles better than others. Who knows, you can probably turn this into a thing if you successfully understand how to clear her jungle speeds more quickly.

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Sorry, it cut some of it out. I meant as support leona. So far it speeds the jungler along (An instant 390 damage pump is a good speed along at level 1), provides me SERIOUS engage potential, gives me a psuedo-exhaust on 60 second (or 15) cooldown, and I hit some really crazy tank numbers. Managed to sit in a 2v5 with Graves pew-pewing for a good half a minute. My bad if I was unclear.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX3 votes

How to Riven:

Step 1: Take your face Step 2: Slam it on your keyboard Step 3: ?????? Step 4: Aquire pentakills and freelo Step 5: Repeat steps 1-4

Works in lower elo. I recommend Box Box. Make sure you become a diehard Box Box fan, buy Battle Bunny Riven, and rage all of the time

Congratz, you have become a low elo Riven main.

SleepyLionCub1 votes

She is actually only on the lower spectrum of viable champions.

If you want freelo top laners go either Rumble or Hecarim top

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Not freelo. But she seems fun, and people say she's strong- yet I can't play her.

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