Garen with a black cleaver is absolutely broken. Change my mind.

nah

Garen with a phage is already broken tbh don't change my mind IDC

No, he's not broken. The fools he slays are broken... BODIES! lol

Also those are just attributes they assigned to the juggernaut class. High damage, high tank, some form of sustain at the penalty of low engage / mobility. (Darius, Garen, Illaoi, Mordekaiser, Shyvana (with her class breaking ultimate which they've said that's what they use ultimates for btw), Nasus, etc)

Dolphins are just gay sharks, Change my mind

Yep

But muh it's designed for juggernauts excuse.

Nevermind the fact a class designed to be able to easily take on 2 enemies at once, with items to match, only makes sense in a purely PvE game.

It's not about changing your mind. It's about internally laughing at you for thinking that regardless of what else we do.

Garen with only a black cleaver destroys early game in top lane due to 1. A decent hp increase, 2. Moderate attack stat, and 3. The ability to shred armor with stacks which work in conjunction with his E (The spin) and with the 2nd passive that increases move speed when you hit an enemy. This basically allows him to murder tanks and non-tanks relatively fast since just one spin is enough to get their hp decently low.

But it doesn't make him broken though it only makes him a lot stronger early game just due to that single item.