I'm happy with the fact they will be free, but that cant be a serious thing without any compensation for the absurd amount of resources i spent on that, forcing me to use rp to buy champions during 6 years.
What i will receive of compensation for that?
Eedat8 votesYou really should watch the whole thing
"Many of you guys have spent a lot of IP on runes already. When we transition over to the new system, we'll have a plan in place to take care of players who have invested in runes and runes pages over the years"
Siegfriedx13 votesYou really should watch the whole thing
Yeah, im asking what will be it.
Paquay7 votesWe don't know yet. This isn't supposed to go in until November.
Also, you've gotten to use the runes for 6 years, so it's not like you haven't gotten anything out of it.
The constant whining from entitled players gets old fast.
Siegfriedx11 votesWe don't know yet. This isn't supposed to go in until November.
Also, you've gotten to use the runes for 6 years, so it's not like you haven't gotten anything out of it.
The constant whining from entitled players gets old fast.
If you think its ok to invest resources in to something that become free available without compensation feel free to give up everything you have at will as it's your problem not mine.
As other people said they said they will have a plan. I want to know what line of plan they have on that as it would not be satisfactory to receive, for example, an icon for such investment.
Paquay2 votesThey don't have it all worked out yet. And they're not going to tell us. If they knew now then they would let us know so they could get our feedback.
Go cry somewhere else about having runes for 6 years and wanting compensation. You'll get something out of it when the time comes.
Lauchmelder1 votesYou have never played an MMO before, did you?
I mean, I play Archeage and let me tell you, I faced the grind and got a full Ayanad (top crafted gear through countless layers of RNG) set of both armor and weapons. On June 7th a new patch will release (Patch 3.5) that removes the RNG part from crafting, effectively making it easier to craft top level gear.
Why should they do it? Because new players need to grind hundreds, maybe even thousands of hours just to get all of those runes you have. That's not fair for them. Old players should have a knowledge and mechanic advantage at best, not a time-invested advantage as well.
Siegfriedx11 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xJtPOqRR,comment-id=00040000000000000001,timestamp=2017-05-30T20:52:56.810+0000)
You have never played an MMO before, did you?
I mean, I play Archeage and let me tell you, I faced the grind and got a full Ayanad (top crafted gear through countless layers of RNG) set of both armor and weapons. On June 7th a new patch will release (Patch 3.5) that removes the RNG part from crafting, effectively making it easier to craft top level gear.
Why should they do it? Because new players need to grind hundreds, maybe even thousands of hours just to get all of those runes you have. That's not fair for them. Old players should have a knowledge and mechanic advantage at best, not a time-invested advantage as well.
This is not an MMO, neither is Archeage.
I used to play "the duel" long time ago. When the game ended i got all my money back i invested in it going to court [what have also nothing to do with this post anyway as i'm not suggesting any of that].
A lot of people have this strange way of thinking that does not matter what you invest, then when you answer them they like to pretend you are saying you are going to do some big action against riot or something. It's very misleading the way some people think when they believe their time have no value or something like that.
DrCyanide2 votesWhat, exactly, were you investing in? What return were you seeing on this investment?
Runes weren't a retirement plan, they were an IP sink. You spent IP for a stat boost in the game. Chances are your champion was balanced around that +X stat by having -X base stats to compensate.
In other words, you were given the illusion of choice rather than meaningful choice. They're taking away the illusion and giving you real choices instead. It's why they have to do away with payed Runes, because if they kept them then League would officially be Pay to Win.
Siegfriedx11 votesWhat, exactly, were you investing in? What return were you seeing on this investment?
Runes weren't a retirement plan, they were an IP sink. You spent IP for a stat boost in the game. Chances are your champion was balanced around that +X stat by having -X base stats to compensate.
In other words, you were given the illusion of choice rather than meaningful choice. They're taking away the illusion and giving you real choices instead. It's why they have to do away with payed Runes, because if they kept them then League would officially be Pay to Win.
Sad that you under value time invested as no investment.
DrCyanide3 votesI value the time I've invested in League, but I think you've lost sight of what you invested it for.
You didn't invest time for IP or Runes, you invested it for fun and enjoyment. You've gotten that, and you'll continue to get that with the new Runes in ways the current system can't deliver.
thecowley1 votesI value the time I've invested in League, but I think you've lost sight of what you invested it for.
You didn't invest time for IP or Runes, you invested it for fun and enjoyment. You've gotten that, and you'll continue to get that with the new Runes in ways the current system can't deliver.
This. I would love to get some of the ip, espically from pages bought. Two runes pages can be 2-4 champs depending on cost. But that also matters how new runes work.
Idea, what if they are just set pages. They make ten runes. One is called the mage and gives mana ap and cdr. The next Warrior, gives health, mr and armor. Ect
Paquay1 votesShhh, don't tell him he's playing a video game for fun rather than IP...
Maybe we can hire him for a pittance. :P
Lauchmelder1 votesYea.... I doubt anything of that is true. Companies have fairly well written ToS' that negate any chance of getting your money back. I call lies.
Leyin1 votesYeah, im asking what will be it.
they named : key fragments, chests and exclusive content that is only avabile by buying the old runes
Siegfriedx13 votes[{quoted}](name=KNTE Lukas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xJtPOqRR,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2017-05-30T20:37:39.128+0000)
they named : key fragments, chests and exclusive content that is only avabile by buying the old runes
I dont think they said that. Where they said about it? I thought that was based on the honor system.
KVbqbFsC8e4 votesDid you actually watch the video?
SSShutTheDuckUp4 votesWell, they said in the video that they will thing about players who already had spent IP on runes, so you are crying over nothing. 4:12 of the video, you are welcome
Meep Man4 votesThey are planning compensation, but have no details to share currently since it's still around half a year away. While I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, I doubt it will be straight up IP and RP being given back to you. Maybe for the Rune Pages, but I doubt it for the Runes.
Siegfriedx11 votesThey are planning compensation, but have no details to share currently since it's still around half a year away. While I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, I doubt it will be straight up IP and RP being given back to you. Maybe for the Rune Pages, but I doubt it for the Runes.
I wonder if everything will be turned in to chests and keys like someone suggested.
Siegfriedx11 votesThey are planning compensation, but have no details to share currently since it's still around half a year away. While I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, I doubt it will be straight up IP and RP being given back to you. Maybe for the Rune Pages, but I doubt it for the Runes.
Yeah i think so
undesirable team3 votesa pat on the back? idk they said they'd compensate xd
AdeBug2 voteswell first, no one forced you to buy anything. I personally never spent any RP on this game nor intend to. second, I gotta watch the so called vid cus a compensation sure sounds nice ^^
EDIT: k It's a long way til Nov, and they say they have a plan in place for those that invested in runes all these years. /closed
Siegfriedx11 voteswell first, no one forced you to buy anything. I personally never spent any RP on this game nor intend to. second, I gotta watch the so called vid cus a compensation sure sounds nice ^^
That's not how market works neither does money. If you want to operate this way, it's up to you the amount of rights you want to give up.
Paquay2 votesGiving up rights? Wtf are you talking about? Just shut up and wait until we actually get closer to when this is implemented. It's still 6 months away!
AdeBug2 votesother than pay to win skins, I have no clue as to what they MIGHT be on about
it's a free game with literally free champs and free runes (even free chests that can give you free skins and icons), unlocked in time after playing the game, as a reward for playing. You have the right to play. And unlock em in your free time.
Paquay2 votesI agree. They didn't give up any rights to play or to spend IP on runes. That's 6 years of having an advantage over someone who didn't purchase any runes. On top of that, it's all free.
And I hate when people use the argument "I worked for it" when it's more like "I played a game for it, and got free stuff out of it".
Siegfriedx11 votesGiving up rights? Wtf are you talking about? Just shut up and wait until we actually get closer to when this is implemented. It's still 6 months away!
So when someone breaks your "what you invest is lost and that's it" your response is "shut up" Good to know. No one is asking you to keep posting here anyway and i'm not rushing or putting pressure on you to answer anything.
I asked what kind of things they have in mind and you lose your shit. Go drink some water or something.
Paquay2 votesLose my shit? Nah, you're just incapable of waiting for an answer so you and several others want to pepper the forums demanding that you be compensated for something you already got for free.
You get some free stuff, it changes after 6 years and then you believe you deserve compensation? That my friend is the definition of entitled.
Siegfriedx11 votesLose my shit? Nah, you're just incapable of waiting for an answer so you and several others want to pepper the forums demanding that you be compensated for something you already got for free.
You get some free stuff, it changes after 6 years and then you believe you deserve compensation? That my friend is the definition of entitled.
Should be fun doing business with you. Hot headed, don't understand the fundamentals of investing and engagement. Can't take a question without assumptions.
"incapable of waiting" because of 1 open question? ashuhasuahuashusahusahasuhas
Probably you are the kind of people that don't understand why Championship Riven got changes and benefits to players that had it long time ago when it got released after.
Paquay1 votesDoing business with me? You won't be doing business with me, so that's an odd comment.
"Incapable of waiting" because you have asked the same question several times throughout the thread.
This is still 6 months away. Sit down with your entitlement and wait patiently.
Siegfriedx11 votesDoing business with me? You won't be doing business with me, so that's an odd comment.
"Incapable of waiting" because you have asked the same question several times throughout the thread.
This is still 6 months away. Sit down with your entitlement and wait patiently.
Aushaushauhsauahahshaushs
thecowley1 votesThat's not how market works neither does money. If you want to operate this way, it's up to you the amount of rights you want to give up.
What the hell kind of market and money system do you use? A product is made because of demand, with the price set by supply of the item or service, and the consumer chooses which one, if any to buy
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Siegfriedx14 voteshow do we know this post is wrong in many levels : you need MAX 150k IP to get ALL the runes on the game .. and you won't get them all anyway because most of them are useless
All runes costed 406,890 ip... Its just math... 12 Quintessences at a cost of 2050 IP x 3 of each = 73,800 IP 18 Quintessences at a cost of 1025 IP x 3 = 55,350 IP 15 Runes at a cost of 820 IP x 9 = 110,700 IP 3 Runes at a cost of 515 IP x 9 = 13,905 IP 33 Runes at a cost of 410 IP x 9 = 121,770 IP 17 Runes at a cost of 205 IP x 9 = 31,365 IP
SirTeemoMushroom1 votesyou won't buy them all anyway ... 85% of the runes are useless
Hyperiön2 votesBack in the day, all of the runes were really useful.
Now, you really only need 4 Rune pages if that.
AP AD Tank (not required, you can take ad or ap page)
And ASAD (again not required)
LeagueOfJhin1 votesFirst of all they are giving compensation second of all no one forced you to buy those champions with rp
BigBellBrute1 votesI'm happy with the fact they will be free, but that cant be a serious thing without any compensation for the absurd amount of resources i spent on that, forcing me to use rp to buy champions during 6 years.
What i will receive of compensation for that?
Dunno yet. Maybe make some Runelord skins and give them away depending upon how many you bought? That would be cool.
Oh wait. This is Riot. They'll give you 10% off rather than give them to you.
Surr20plz1 votesI think they should convert a percentage of IP spent into RP.
yougotCAGED1 votesI didn't only spend IP. I spent RP on Rune Pages too. :(
Siegfriedx11 votesI didn't only spend IP. I spent RP on Rune Pages too. :(
Me too...
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Here's what you agreed to when you created your account Friendo. They could remove all skinds and runes entirely, and you're not entitled to a penny. That's the funny thing. You can't claim you're "Investing" in something when there's absolutely no chance of any return other than personal enjoyment.