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Until Yasuo is buffed and becomes viable, I will ruin the games of those responible for his nerfs!

Arsames··6 votes·6,525 views

A lot of people don't know the truth behind Yasuo nerfs, but I do. Yasuo was balanced, after many nerfs, he was balanced, but the forums were spammed by low elo bronze/silver noobs crying about him! Nobody at high elo had any complaints about Yasuo, but because of these toxic low elo garbage bronze/silver players, Yasuo was nerfed and became unviable and trash tier.

I am a diamond player, I am good, but playing Yasuo is just frustrating because of how weak and bad he is atm. Until you buff him riot, I will take revenge on those bronze/silver players that QQ'd non-stop.

How? Simple! I have 3 smurf accounts and I will smurf and troll at bronze/silver elo and ruin your games, all of you bronze/silver players are bad at this game and ruin the game by crying for nerfs non-stop, instead of l2p'ing.

If my team is in promo's, I will play extremely bad and feed, Teemo jungle? sounds good :D dying with double buff to enemy laner? sounds good! If enemy is in promo's, I will stomp and get fed. I will feed and get fed every other game, I will turn bronze/silver in to a bigger elo hell, until Yasuo is buffed to become viable again.

All you bronze/silver players, good luck with your ranked games, I gain pleasure from your suffering. I will make you rage quit, then report you for leaving game afk and get you banned. I will play so bad and make you lose your promos, when you flame me, I will report you for offensive language, enjoy the ranked restriction.

Welcome to elo hell, suffering is magic.

92 Comments

MLDzXnRRR10 votes

He is manaless with almost no cds, you can often ult twice in teamfight later in the game; great design. Some of the most hated champions in the game have some of these quilities - spams non stop, manaless, hypermobile, insane dmg - do you see why people hate Yasuo, Zed, Riven, Lee, Akali etc.

Arsames1 votes

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He is manaless with almost no cds, you can often ult twice in teamfight later in the game; great design. Some of the most hated champions in the game have some of these quilities - spams non stop, manaless, hypermobile, insane dmg - do you see why people hate Yasuo, Zed, Riven, Lee, Akali etc.

Being resourceless comes with other penalties, best champions in the game are those with mana, a resource. Stop crying low elo noob, all you need is 2x item 1056 and you never go oom early game. "muh resources" rofl. Only resourceless champ that is played in LCS is Rek'Sai, get a clue.

MLDzXnRRR7 votes

Yeah, like Shyvana and Vladimir aren't played still in competetive, also your runepages for Yasuo are pretty bad -

Attack Damage
+15.26
Armor
+9
Magic Resist
+12.06

vs Ap

Attack Damage
+15.26
Armor
+9
Attack Speed
+5.73%

vs AD

No wonder why you complain... Can't you accept that you can't roflstomp players that are not braindead with unoptimized setup? Deal with it.

Arsames1 votes

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Yeah, like Shyvana and Vladimir aren't played still in competetive, also your runepages for Yasuo are pretty bad -

Attack Damage
+15.26
Armor
+9
Magic Resist
+12.06

vs Ap

Attack Damage
+15.26
Armor
+9
Attack Speed
+5.73%

vs AD

No wonder why you complain... Can't you accept that you can't roflstomp players that are not braindead with unoptimized setup? Deal with it.

My Yasuo pages are very good, those are the best settups for Yasuo.

I missed Vlad, you got me there. Shyv isn't reliable pick like Rek'Sai and Vlad though so nope.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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My Yasuo pages are very good, those are the best settups for Yasuo.

I missed Vlad, you got me there. Shyv isn't reliable pick like Rek'Sai and Vlad though so nope.

Try getting some Crit chance in your runes and hp instead of armor vs AP. Also there is no reason of getting flat MR unless you are vs LB; MR per lvl is better, because you don\t get any MR per lvl. Spammy energy champs are still played in competetive - Rumble, Lee, Zac, Gnar, Shen, Rengar... Even Yasuo is still played and banned in competetive (because he rekts Gnar). Also LCS is not the only competetive - check the Korean and China scene, your unviable champions are still played.

Arsames1 votes

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Try getting some Crit chance in your runes and hp instead of armor vs AP. Also there is no reason of getting flat MR unless you are vs LB; MR per lvl is better, because you don\t get any MR per lvl. Spammy energy champs are still played in competetive - Rumble, Lee, Zac, Gnar, Shen, Rengar... Even Yasuo is still played and banned in competetive (because he rekts Gnar). Also LCS is not the only competetive - check the Korean and China scene, your unviable champions are still played.

Armor is better than HP vs ranged AP champs, at my elo they are good enough to spam their AA when they can. MRpLVL only becomes good at mid game, I don't need that, I need the early game defence vs AP mages. Crit runes are waste of slots, Yasuo can't get 100% crit anymore with IE nerf, 80% is practically the same as 90%.

Yasuo is just weak and needs to be buffed.

MLDzXnRRR5 votes

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Armor is better than HP vs ranged AP champs, at my elo they are good enough to spam their AA when they can. MRpLVL only becomes good at mid game, I don't need that, I need the early game defence vs AP mages. Crit runes are waste of slots, Yasuo can't get 100% crit anymore with IE nerf, 80% is practically the same as 90%.

Yasuo is just weak and needs to be buffed.

That's why challenger scrubs are still running attack speed and crit on Yasuo, right. Look the runepages of some challenger Yasuo players and you will see even uselees HP yellows, but you are the almighty Yasuo god, noone knows how to play him and you are the best. Kappa.

Arsames1 votes

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That's why challenger scrubs are still running attack speed and crit on Yasuo, right. Look the runepages of some challenger Yasuo players and you will see even uselees HP yellows, but you are the almighty Yasuo god, noone knows how to play him and you are the best. Kappa.

Crit and AS, ayyy lmao, that sucks, nty.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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Crit and AS, ayyy lmao, that sucks, nty.

So Challengers suck, Diamond is the best!!!

Lord Dusteon5 votes

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Crit and AS, ayyy lmao, that sucks, nty.

http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/EUNE/Darklline/runes Oh look, one of the literally best Yasuo's in the world, who's in Challenger, runs Crit, AS, and flat health. http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/EUNE/Bogato%20z%20Bani/runes Hey another one! This one's only in high Master tier, but he ALSO runs Crit and AS, just with lifesteal instead of health. http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/NA/Aceirl/runes Challenger again, and again with Crit and AS! This ones uses some flat AD instead of hp/lifesteal. http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/EUW/jnfected/runes Another Master tier, another Crit and AS with flat hp!

So I just found 4 different extremely high tier Yasuo mains, AND ALL OF THEM RUN CRIT AND AS. And are in Master+. Guess what, it turns out Yasuo IS viable in diamond and above, and that crit and AS are a main stat people run on him!

Moussetracks9 votes

The problem with yasou is his kit design. He has the kind of kit that;

A. You have the tools to beat him and he has to seriously outplay you in order to win. B. You don't have the tools to beat him and you really can't do anything TO him other than cower behind your tower or something.

Yes, you can say that the meta needs to shift or you just need to couterpick him or something, but I'm personally really getting sick of riot releasing champions that are almost auto win based on the fact that only a small pool of champions have an effective way to defend themselves or even win against them.

CKwoka269477 votes

i don't see why riot doesn't just ban this account you are posting on. Anycase, seems like making these kinds of threats warrant a closer look by riot employee.

Arsames1 votes

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i don't see why riot doesn't just ban this account you are posting on. Anycase, seems like making these kinds of threats warrant a closer look by riot employee.

Why would they ban this account? For being a positive player that carries his team mates in ranked games? (6 wins in a row, diamond elo). I respect high elo players.

It is low elo players that are all toxic and noobs, any low elo player that asks for a nerf to a champion needs to be perma banned. You can cry, but on my 3 smurfs I am not breaking any rules, being bad isn't against the rules, being good isn't against the rules, I will ruin bronze/silver ranked games and get many bronze/silver players chat restricted/ranked restricted :) That will teach them!

BerserkGoldfish5 votes

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Why would they ban this account? For being a positive player that carries his team mates in ranked games? (6 wins in a row, diamond elo). I respect high elo players.

It is low elo players that are all toxic and noobs, any low elo player that asks for a nerf to a champion needs to be perma banned. You can cry, but on my 3 smurfs I am not breaking any rules, being bad isn't against the rules, being good isn't against the rules, I will ruin bronze/silver ranked games and get many bronze/silver players chat restricted/ranked restricted :) That will teach them!

once again denizen of the underbridge, riot doesn't make balance decisions based on low ELO requests.

Arsames2 votes

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once again denizen of the underbridge, riot doesn't make balance decisions based on low ELO requests.

Yes they do!!!!

BerserkGoldfish5 votes

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Yes they do!!!!

no no they don't, otherwise Lee sin would be nerfed to the ground, kata would be unplayable, zed would be unplayable, fiora and riven would both be unplayable.

they have publicly stated that balance is done at plat plus to avoid 2 situations. they figure its high enough that it wont overtune as often for the LCS, but low enough it wont completely gut champs.

yasuo had a ridiculous winrate for a long time, and almost a 90% pick ban rate across every sub lcs league.

Arsames1 votes

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no no they don't, otherwise Lee sin would be nerfed to the ground, kata would be unplayable, zed would be unplayable, fiora and riven would both be unplayable.

they have publicly stated that balance is done at plat plus to avoid 2 situations. they figure its high enough that it wont overtune as often for the LCS, but low enough it wont completely gut champs.

yasuo had a ridiculous winrate for a long time, and almost a 90% pick ban rate across every sub lcs league.

rofl, those Yasuo days are long over. He has 45% win rate now, he needs massive buffs to become viable.

TheRakkun6 votes

He needs a rework so his kit isn't overloaded as fuck.

Arsames1 votes

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He needs a rework so his kit isn't overloaded as fuck.

His kit is bad, not overloaded. Azir has an overloaded kit, Yasuo has an underloaded kit, he needs buffs.

TheRakkun4 votes

So having a passive shield, a low CD mobility spell, a passive that doubles his crit chance, a knockup, being resourceless having one of the best disengage tools in the game and having an ult that doesn't need him to set it up is underloaded? You make me laugh

By your logic of winrate meaning buffs then Azir needs buffs as he has one of the lowest winrates in the game.

Arsames2 votes

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So having a passive shield, a low CD mobility spell, a passive that doubles his crit chance, a knockup, being resourceless having one of the best disengage tools in the game and having an ult that doesn't need him to set it up is underloaded? You make me laugh

By your logic of winrate meaning buffs then Azir needs buffs as he has one of the lowest winrates in the game.

His passive shield is trash, 1 poke and its gone. He doesn't have mobility, his E is garbage, low range, useless without minions. His double crit is garbage, because he he has low damage on his abilities because of that and also a crit penatly. Both Yi and Tryndamere have better damage than Yasuo with same crit items. Knock up that needs to be loaded, really hard to hit from ranged, garbage. Being resourceless comes with other penalties, it isn't a strength, best champs in the game have resources. He doesn't have a disengage/escape.

Azir doesn't need a buff because he has decent win rate and is a LCS pick.

TheRakkun3 votes

His passive shield is MADE to be taken away by poke, it helps in lane by preventing poke, his E is not garbage as it is great for diving onto particular targets and esaping through creepwaves double crit is not garbage as crit scales off auto-attacks, his Q isn't meant to be that great later or we'd get another riven, being resourceless comes with NO PENALTIES windwall is an amazing disengage from ranged CC and his E can be cast through an enemy flanking you or through a creep wave to escape quickly.

Azir is an LCS pick sure, that's because he's a teamfight mage, Yasuo is generally not a LCS pick because he's easy to punish for mistakes in teamplay but is great in soloqueue as he feeds of disorganized teams which is why champions such as Fiora, Katarina, Riven, Nasus are so loved in soloqueue, not all champions are meant to be able to be played LCS.

Also of course Yi and trynd do more damage in general, keep in mind they have no CC (Other than a situational slow for tryndamere) while yasuo does and has better escape and disengage tools, stop comparing apples to oranges.

Arsames3 votes

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His passive shield is MADE to be taken away by poke, it helps in lane by preventing poke, his E is not garbage as it is great for diving onto particular targets and esaping through creepwaves double crit is not garbage as crit scales off auto-attacks, his Q isn't meant to be that great later or we'd get another riven, being resourceless comes with NO PENALTIES windwall is an amazing disengage from ranged CC and his E can be cast through an enemy flanking you or through a creep wave to escape quickly.

Azir is an LCS pick sure, that's because he's a teamfight mage, Yasuo is generally not a LCS pick because he's easy to punish for mistakes in teamplay but is great in soloqueue as he feeds of disorganized teams which is why champions such as Fiora, Katarina, Riven, Nasus are so loved in soloqueue, not all champions are meant to be able to be played LCS.

Also of course Yi and trynd do more damage in general, keep in mind they have no CC (Other than a situational slow for tryndamere) while yasuo does and has better escape and disengage tools, stop comparing apples to oranges.

Nope, Tryndamere and Yi have better escape than Yasuo. Yasuo sucks and needs buffs, he isn't pickd in LCS because he is overnerfed low win rate gutted champ that needs to be buffed.

TheRakkun3 votes

Alright, keep repeating yourself, throwing out ad hominems to people who disagree with you and not backing up any of your claims with statistics, see how far that gets you, you'll most likely end up banned for spamming the boards and ruining other players experiences while the rest of us will probably be at champions who are actually in a bad place such as Elise andTwitch

Möral Support2 votes

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Why would they ban this account? For being a positive player that carries his team mates in ranked games? (6 wins in a row, diamond elo). I respect high elo players.

It is low elo players that are all toxic and noobs, any low elo player that asks for a nerf to a champion needs to be perma banned. You can cry, but on my 3 smurfs I am not breaking any rules, being bad isn't against the rules, being good isn't against the rules, I will ruin bronze/silver ranked games and get many bronze/silver players chat restricted/ranked restricted :) That will teach them!

First of all, I'm not low elo gold. I'm low tier plat. Exactly as you're high teir plat. Second of all, if yasuo is soooo bad please explain to me how 6 of the 50 top challenger people have yasuo in their top played champions AND have amazing kdas with them. I think you need to shut off your account and learn to play these champions with high skill caps because people are trying to learn them in your games. And when all the reports come in for intentional feeding or assisting enemy team riot will look back here and see what you posted and you will be banned. Don't worry I'm sure you'll buy a diamond account because you won't be able to make it back to diamond because of all the yasuos and lee sins in your games.

Third maybe if you looked outside your own discussions and looked in the HUB for the gameplay and balance boards you could read the rules and How riot balances champions. EDIT: Looked outside your ass

Arsames1 votes

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Möral Support1 votes

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Obviously you dont know anything because All regions play yasuo top lane and my elo is that of plat 5 yours is plat 1. Learn elo child and go outside

MarkedOfKane6 votes

It would be pretty cool if Riot were to just ban this guy for making a threat.

Colgate Gator5 votes

The salty AD assassin main has spoken.

JAGMAG4 votes

your bad at this game obviously if you can only play one champ who was op learn2play m8 get gud i already have a hard enough time carrying feeders dont need to have to carry purposeful feeders to. and dont say im diamond im good lol my silver 5 friend bought a diamond account and has climbed from d4 to d2 so obviously silver=diamond stop being mad m8 and learn2play

Arsames2 votes

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Möral Support7 votes

Riot, remove this toxic child who thinks Diamond makes him a god. The minute you win an Lcs game you can make these threats kid, until then log out and please stop making these boards a place for venting. summoner 11 is what they need to do to you.

lB2kGRlc8y4 votes

Love how he's deleting his previous comments for their overwhelming stupidity, paints a great picture about how this kid's mind works.

BerserkGoldfish4 votes

Im fairly certain Riot has never done anything because "low elo wanted it" like ever in the history of ever. If they would, the first thing would be the damn farming starting item that we all want and have been asking for for 3 seasons.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

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Im fairly certain Riot has never done anything because "low elo wanted it" like ever in the history of ever. If they would, the first thing would be the damn farming starting item that we all want and have been asking for for 3 seasons.

That is so hilariously false this game is balanced around low elo and partially around the pro scene. Akali was perfectly fine but because low elo couldn't deal with her they cried and she got nerfed. After a few initial nerfs Yasuo was fine but low elo kept crying and he got nerfed more. Riven has been nerfed numerous times despite being okay because low elo always feeds her and cries when she stomps them. Those are just some of the champions that have been nerfed as a result of low elo QQ. Saying they don't nerf champions because of low elo is a complete lie

JAGMAG1 votes

lol akli was fine what are you smoking i think your confused some champs like akli dont see much lcs if any play time but that dose not mean they dont stomp solo que that's were you are getting confused there balancing around 5v5 and solo que not around low elo and pros yeah akli might not have stomped pro matches but she stomped solo que all the time

Penguin Eclipse4 votes

Won't work. Even when trolling you will still perform better than bronze/silvers. Your attempts to sabotage will just end up with you carrying them.

And you will get so frustrated with low elo that you will give up after a week.

Arsames2 votes

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Won't work. Even when trolling you will still perform better than bronze/silvers. You're attempts to sabotage will just end up with you carrying them.

And you will get so frustrated with low elo that you will give up after a week.

If that will be the case, then I will make a new thread and offer 100K USD to any rioter that buffs Yasuo. I will get Yasuo buffed sooner or later, there is no stopping it, it is preordained.

JAGMAG1 votes

yes at some point he will be buffed that's the nature of the game constant buffs and nerfs

TheI3igDaddy4 votes

This is a blatant troll thread and I'm apparently the only one here who sees this? Jesus Christ, guys.

JAGMAG1 votes

except allot of high elo players do this ive run into it at least 5 games this season were someone claiming to be high elo punishing low elo will feed his face off and yeah 5 out of 200 is not that big a deal but its super frustrating

Best Azır NA4 votes

Yeah Yasuo could do with slight buffs. But being a dick to people you don't know who have done nothing wrong to you isn't okay. I would say you're better than that, but you made a My Little Pony reference so I'm not going to give you the benefit of doubt.

Malix Farwin3 votes

Just because your skill with Yasuo isn't viable doesn't mean the champ isn't.

Arsames2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xA85gKk3,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2015-06-27T17:30:26.279+0000)

Just because your skill with Yasuo isn't viable doesn't mean the champ isn't.

That really hurt.... my feelings.

Oh wait, it didn't, I am good with Yasuo, the champ is just weak.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

There is a saying:

#There Are No Bad Champions. Just Dumbass Players.

Even though I'm Silver($1000 says you were actually gonna search my lolking just to "counter-argue, so I'm telling you this now), I have always admit that every bad game I played is my bad. I tend to get cocky, maybe I didn't ward enough, or the fact I haven't learn the champ enough in terms of combos & build paths.

I suggest you stop having lots of fake self-esteem blindly, and follow my ways as well.

Arsames1 votes

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There is a saying:

#There Are No Bad Champions. Just Dumbass Players.

Even though I'm Silver($1000 says you were actually gonna search my lolking just to "counter-argue, so I'm telling you this now), I have always admit that every bad game I played is my bad. I tend to get cocky, maybe I didn't ward enough, or the fact I haven't learn the champ enough in terms of combos & build paths.

I suggest you stop having lots of fake self-esteem blindly, and follow my ways as well.

What you say is good and I support that, wish more n00bz had your mentality, but that doesn't apply to Yasuo, Yasuo is special case, he is weak and needs buffs, gg honored.

JAGMAG1 votes

lol go watch rng vs c9t and tell me he needs buffs also his kit makes for an amazing bruiser even if his damage numbers get nerfed maybe idk change your play style? we now have fizz tank top last season that was super troll but now its fairly normal to see in high elo

Baby Ghoul3 votes

Were any of us shocked to find out that OP was a brony?

Tyrant Ken2 votes

What's wrong with all the people saying yasuo is bad, he has a pretty good laning phase and i always get fed and snowball. He is just a champ that take skills because dashing to random minions and Qing after every dash won't make you win.

IMO, the thing that makes him "bad" is the tank meta , unless you get full armor pen runes and get the bonus from your ult, tanky bruiser will always win him 1v1.

Also, before you say anything check my yasuo win rate and KDA, i played him the most at ranked, without counting all of the normal games i played with him of course.

EDIT: Sorry, 1.86 KDA isn't really good, but i carried most of the games with yasuo even tho i was the main focus.

and because your diamond doesn't mean anything i got a better win ratio than you.

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