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What do I do when I win lane but the rest of my team just ends up feeding

Jacksonville··9 votes·3,025 views

Someone please answer this fucking question. I just have to take the loss? I just need to sit back and say "I played well, but there goes another 20 MMR!" Please don't give me bullshit answers like "You can solo carry if you're good enough" Because you honestly can't with some of the tards I've played with.

Also, when your jungler goes 0/5 early game and you call him out on it, and the whole team reports you for being toxic even though this is a competitive game and I'm in RANKED, you know that this game is aimed towards people under 12 years of age.

This game is 10% fun, 10% time waster, 80% pure bullshit and rage.

EDIT: Here's the game that made me type this wall of bullshit. https://s3.imgbomb.com/gsaUA.png

I win early game, going 3/1 in lane (With my only death being from a gank by jungler AND mid lane) and the rest of my team just feeds their hearts out. This is honest bullshit and I still lose 19 damn LP.

43 Comments

Sworeclipse3 votes

Here's your answer, "This game is 10% fun, 10% time waster, 80% pure bullshit and rage."

I know how you feel D:

Jacksonville3 votes

Those stats are 99% percent true.

Treeofwar3 votes

dont say anything telling him hes not doing well does not give him the power to do well. Second sometimes there is nothing you can do but there are times you can carry but if you are winning lane try and go to the other lanes and help them like if your mid and kill him 5 times dont sit mid and farm take tower and dont stop going bot or top push the wave and roam. If there is nothing you can do then you have to take the loss and just try to learn what you can have done better in lane if you died or maybe you could have warded better. Also if you are doing so well your farm should be a lot better the 1-13 yas had about the same as you.

Jacksonville1 votes

Thank you for the reply

Treeofwar1 votes

{quoted}

Thank you for the reply

no problem

Shahamut2 votes

Well, in case you ACTUALLY wanted a well thought out response:

  1. Don't be a keyboard warrior: AKA, don't bother "calling people out" or yelling at people because they had/are having a bad game. It certainly doesn't help them play better telling them that they are not doing well. They already know it (or should know it).

  2. Try to encourage them to do things differently. Don't be like, "STOP DYING NOOB!" but rather suggest a different course of action. "Hey, bot is losing pretty bad, but Im currently winning my lane, instead of going bot where they are super ahead, come top and help me extend my lead a bit." (Im a top lane main, and this happens a lot, I feel ya) or to the bot lane: "Try to play stupid safe, and put down some defensive wards. They are very ahead, try to just farm and catch up. Hopefully we can win some fights once we group."

As far as how to win the game? Its tough to say because its a team game. Even if it is POSSIBLE, a lot of times its very unlikely. Raging only increases the odds of losing though. The best thing you can do (at least if you are top lane, not sure what you play)

  1. Push your lead super hard and try to draw pressure away from your teammates. This can allow them to have breathing room and possibly get more farm/items. Encourage them to try and push for objectives when the enemy rotates on you. Make sure you ward so they can see this early enough to react. If the entire enemy team is missing, (aka not visible on your map) then you can't expect them to just push. They are behind and need to be safe. If they all suddenly appear and kill you, they had no time to react to them being on the map away from them. So wards wards and more wards.

  2. If you have TP, try to make plays around the map with it. Try to pick situations that are favorable of course, where you have a numbers advantage at least. Don't TP to try and save your losing teammates. If they are under tower and half health against fed lane opponents, you probably will just get killed, or they will if they follow up on your engage. Unless of course you are certain you can win that fight. Then do it. :P

  3. If you don't have TP, try to make plays by roaming. Push your wave so that its building up and pushing in your favor, then roam. Counter jungle, gank, and most importantly, Lay Down Your Wards. Vision will help everyone make better decisions. Encourage all of your teammates (not just the support) to lay down wards. Trinkets are free, but everyone should try to buy at least 1 pink. You make more gold if you are alive. Fact. That 75 gold is totally worth. Always.

I hope this can be helpful to you and that your future games go smoother. I have a lot of games like the ones you describe. Most of them I lose. I have, however, won a few as well. Remember that enemy teams can throw JUST AS HARD as yours can. Just because your team started throwing first doesn't mean the enemy team won't throw second or harder than you did. Good luck on the rift.

Jacksonville2 votes

Best response I've ever seen. You actually took the time to type all of this to help me and I read it and you made me feel better.

Thank you.

Shahamut2 votes

Glad it helped you feel better. Maybe this will help too:

http://www.replay.gg/search/na/Shahamut#2285926088

This is a replay of a loss I had recently. I think we actually could have won at one point :P

Hope you get a laugh out of it. Even when you do things really well, crap can still happen. what can ya do right? Learn and move on. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

QQ on boards and get downvoted, that's what you should do

Jacksonville3 votes

Who the fuck cares if I get downvoted?

It's a fucking league board. Reply to my post or get out.

Ruin Lance1 votes

you can't win every game but don't try to pretend like there is low elo hell and that you 'get bad teammates every game' because there isn't and no you don't.

i can climb from bronze to platinum playing the stupidest shit. examples being rammus top lane, yi mid, yasuo adc, etc.

Sworeclipse1 votes

your either lucky af, a lying b3tch, or a wisea33

Ruin Lance1 votes

actually this season i solo climbed from silver 4 to platinum 2 in a very short time playing almost exclusively yasuo adc. (gold 5 to platinum 2 achieved in less than a month. see my op.gg) as for the other picks i play them fairly frequently on my smurf and i moved it from bronze 2 to silver 2 in like 30 games.

Jacksonville1 votes

I know there is no elo hell, I get my ass carried from time to time when I'm playing like I'm high.

But the games where EVERYONE else feeds is just bollocks.

Ruin Lance1 votes

it happens and you can't do anything about those games a lot of the time. don't let it tilt you too much though.

although if you do manage to get ahead in those types of situations, you can influence other lanes by splitpushing or roaming, rather than just sitting in lane and jerking off with your lane opponent.

again though, some losses can't be avoided and everyone deals with it so you shouldn't let it tilt you.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

You actually do get bad teammates every game when you hit a streak somewhere at 52%+ ish.

No one cares that you can climb on hard carry gimmicks as a Plat 1 against low elo. Then again a Yasuo main like yourself- Well, RIP next season when your OTP Yasuo is trash.

Ruin Lance1 votes

lol bronze 3

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

We'll know who the boosted animal is when you can't get to plat 1 next season.

Ruin Lance1 votes

bronze 3 thinks he knows what he's talking about LUL

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Yasuo mains thinking they know things about LoL.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

Let's analyze this game for a second

There was an Illaoi support, that alone is a little bit of a red flag that maybe this was just one of the games you won't win, we all have those.

Now...if you are ahead as a top Lanier but the rest of the map is behind, it's your job to help them get ahead. Find a chance to roam mid, to bot, invade the jungle, find ways to press your lead and help it bleed over to the rest of your team.

Jacksonville1 votes

I understand where you're coming from with this reply

But our Voli wasn't ganking and our Yasuo was trying to 1v2

I guess I just need to take this easy loss with our pro Illaoi support

Guyy Fieri1 votes

Ya and see those are the little things that we can't see just from looking at the match recap. most games are winnable, some just aren't. We're there other things you could've done to impact the outcome? Sure, there's a great chance I wouldn't have a difference though. Take it a learning experience. Maybe there was an opportunity you could've tpd boy and turned around a gank and snowballed the bot lane that you missed while you were playing it? Maybe there was a team fight where if you landed an ability on a different target, it would've shifted the tides of it? There's always something to be learned to take j to future games.

BakedLotion2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gnarles Barkleyy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wzoMKPp7,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-11T00:06:09.396+0000)

Let's analyze this game for a second

There was an Illaoi support, that alone is a little bit of a red flag that maybe this was just one of the games you won't win, we all have those.

Now...if you are ahead as a top Lanier but the rest of the map is behind, it's your job to help them get ahead. Find a chance to roam mid, to bot, invade the jungle, find ways to press your lead and help it bleed over to the rest of your team.

Yo if my yasuo is feeding hard as fuck I aint ganking for him. It's not his job. His job is to pressure herald and top turret. Ganking is completely optional. I dont get why people say "you shouldve helped your team so its your fault you lost." If the other lanes are feeding hard as fuck theres nothing you can do.

Shahamut1 votes

You should ALWAYS help your team. The confusion is when you think that "ganking" is the only way to help them. See my reply in this thread.

The "there's nothing you can do" midset will keep you from improving and growing as a player. Even if it still wouldn't have been enough to win, there is always something you could have done better. The easiest fall back one is farming. Pretty sure you could ALWAYS farm better. Watch your own replay sometime and see what you could have been doing. Im sure, if you are objective, you will find something.

BakedLotion1 votes

{quoted}

You should ALWAYS help your team. The confusion is when you think that "ganking" is the only way to help them. See my reply in this thread.

The "there's nothing you can do" midset will keep you from improving and growing as a player. Even if it still wouldn't have been enough to win, there is always something you could have done better. The easiest fall back one is farming. Pretty sure you could ALWAYS farm better. Watch your own replay sometime and see what you could have been doing. Im sure, if you are objective, you will find something.

Ok you can improve. On to the next game for another idiot that goes 0/10. l0l. Please. It doesnt matter how good you are if your team is 0/20. You're not gonna win a 1v5. Attitude wont win a game. Thats just a myth. Its purely 90% luck and 10% skill. Consistently doing well? Great. Hope you dont get idiots every game and you'll climb.

Shahamut1 votes

Positive attitude alone does not win you a game. No one made that claim. The only claim I made was that flaming your teammates and giving them anecdotal advice that means nothing does not improve your chances but in fact hurts them.

Having a good attitude and attempting to help your teammates win the game and be better players in the end will get you more wins that you thought you were not going to get. Flaming and being a jerk and just blaming your team will cause you to lose games you MAYBE could have still won.

TLDR- Attitude alone does not win games, but it helps :) Negative attitudes hurt your chances of winning. Only claims made.

Guyy Fieri2 votes

But that's exactly the answer to how do I carry crap teammates. As a jungles, sure don't gank a losing lane I'm fine with that. But as a top laner (which is where this guy was playing) if you have a lead and have priority in lane and you don't find ways to extend that lead to your team, then some of the blame also goes to you.

There are to planets who can do it through pressure and split pushing and making 3 enemies answer you, opening up the rest of the map (like Nasus, Tryndamere, Gnar to a point). But with a champ like Cho'gath who isn't quite as safe to play overextended (meaning you will likely die when they send the three people) the most effective way is through teleporting bot (or even just roaming bot) and at least tilting that matchup. Even if you don't get kills, you can usually at least get the tower and get some more gold to your team. Maybe you get the dragon and get some stats for your team. That's the type of stuff I'm talking about when I say help your losing lanes as a top laner. If you win lane with bot losing and just proceed to farm at your tower for the rest of lane phase, then it only gets worse.

Shahamut1 votes

This guy gets it.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

Every once I a while I say thing that are right..

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gnarles Barkleyy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wzoMKPp7,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-11T00:06:09.396+0000)

Let's analyze this game for a second

There was an Illaoi support, that alone is a little bit of a red flag

Let me analyze this post for a second...

Stop blaming unfamiliar picks. Illaoi

Hrd2H1t1 votes

There's a difference between an unfamiliar pick and a troll pick Unfamilar pick example: Jhin Mid, seems strange at first but he does have good waveclear and can easily hit mages with his abilities Troll pick example: Soraka ADC, she doesn't have abilities that scale with or synergize with AD, making her do no damage, which is unacceptable on an ADC

Unstoppable Monk1 votes
  1. Illaoi sup isn't a troll pick. It's a little hard to execute rune/mastery/mechanics wise.
  2. Do not speak against thy holy banana machinegun goat you pleb.
  3. Jhin mid is trash and was just done by content creators as a thing.
Hrd2H1t1 votes
  1. Illaoi's only support aspect is barely having a slow. She is made to kill, not to help others kill.
  2. Seriously.
  3. He is pretty good mid. Great waveclear and good poke.
Unstoppable Monk1 votes

I didn't know that zoning, CS denial, ADC bullying, and gank deterrence weren't support traits.

Just because it has waveclear doesn't mean its a good mid. That's why Jhin mid is trash.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

I'm not blaming unfamiliar picks. I've seen plenty off-meta picks win games and be highly effective. But think about it for a second. You have an extremely good dependent, low mobility champ with no hard Cc (Illaoi). The only way that champ can get to where she is supposed to be is with the gold that comes from farming (provided that she doesn't get crazy fed from a misplay bit if she's support). It just doesn't work.

Netherlife1 votes

Here's the easy answer, you queue up for another game. Sometimes you do good and your team doesn't. And sometimes you do bad and your team does good. Shit happens. Everyone experiences it. So just chin up and push on.

51653971DEL11 votes

Like Twisted Fate says, "It's the luck of the draw". Sometimes you and the teammates you pair up just doesn't click, sometimes certain people just aren't as good as the enemy team, and sometimes people just have bad games/days. League is just like those p2w rng games, except in the sense of what teammates you get.

XerShade1 votes

"Someone please answer this fucking question."

  • Umm, I don't think you meant for that to be a sexual innuendo but okay I had my fun.

"Please don't give me bullshit answers like "You can solo carry if you're good enough" Because you honestly can't with some of the tards I've played with."

  • Actually you can, I just carried a game from support. My team was told to play "Protect the 12/2/17 Lux".

"Also, when your jungler goes 0/5 early game and you call him out on it"

  • Aggressive chat, reportable.

"and the whole team reports you for being toxic"

  • As they should, you harassed your jungler.

"even though this is a competitive game and I'm in RANKED"

  • Congratulations you hit level 30, still not allowed to be a dick.

"you know that this game is aimed towards people under 12 years of age."

"This game is 10% fun, 10% time waster, 80% pure bullshit and rage."

  • Actually it's 10% Mute Button, 10% Report Button, and 80% Moving on.

"This is honest bullshit and I still lose 19 damn LP."

  • LP loss is based on MMR, if your MMR is higher than where you are supposed to be it only drops by about 5 to 10, if your too low it drops by 20 to 30. This is called balance.
Unstoppable Monk1 votes

33% win rate on Lux, I guess you carried one game and not games. Lux isn't a support.

XerShade1 votes

Awe how cute he looked at a game mode I really give no cares about.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Yeah, that's pretty much everyone that plays Lux support. KDA game, lose ranked game.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

that game was not winable. thats your answer

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