Riot really needs to remove Ahri's MS bonus from Q.

Rins Thigh Socks·Aug 1, 2015·7 votes·1,052 views

At this point, after all the bug fixes and compensation buffs, all it serves to do is inflate her winrate, which were more than enough for "compensation buffs" for DFG's removal.

ESPECIALLY WHEN RIOT TURNED AROUND AND JUST ADDED LUDEN'S INTO THE GAME ANYWAYS WHICH IS FAR MORE DISGUSTING AND ABUSABLE ON AN EVEN WIDER RANGE OF CHAMPIONS.

Anyways, so here's what I suggest.

Orb of Deception - MS bonus removed from the spell entirely. With Luden's in its current state she doesn't need a MS buff.

and as compensation buffs...

Charm - Holy fuckashit just fix the numbers on Charm so the base damages look less stupid.

60/90/120/150/200 -> 60/95/130/165/200 (+35 base per rank instead of +30/30/30/50)

EDIT: Forgot to link this.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Mia+Bella+Volpe

Trust me, I at least SORTA know what I'm talking about.

23 Comments

BlastumzAug 1, 20152 votes

Yeah I just re picked up Ahri like a week ago. Too strong. You can literally just first pick her without consequence. Recommend everyone add her to your mid pool until she is nerfed.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 1, 20152 votes

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Yeah I just re picked up Ahri like a week ago. Too strong. You can literally just first pick her without consequence. Recommend everyone add her to your mid pool until she is nerfed.

No you can't. Still champs like Annie that ruin her day.
However, you can first-pick her with little consequence. And that's kinda her role. Like Irelia or Nami, she's a generalist and can be played into a variety of team comps and vs. a variety of champions.

ponkzyAug 1, 20151 votes

people who play annie are cancerous pedos, you might lose the game but at least you didn't lose at life

BlastumzAug 1, 20151 votes

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No you can't. Still champs like Annie that ruin her day.

However, you can first-pick her with little consequence. And that's kinda her role. Like Irelia or Nami, she's a generalist and can be played into a variety of team comps and vs. a variety of champions.

You must be a bad Ahri if you have Annie problems.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 1, 20151 votes

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You must be a bad Ahri if you have Annie problems.

Or, you know, instant point-and-click CC tied to a lot of burst is actually a counter to Ahri.

Then there's the fact that

-Tibbers can body block spells you were aiming at Annie. -Annie has stronger teamfight potential and can play anti-assasson, making it much harder for you to be aggressive and dive. -Read the OP. I actually play against Annies that know how to zone and use their massive level-6 powerspike to their advantage. You're unranked.

Fact of the matter is Ahri capitalizes off the possibility of error, of which Annie has little to none.

BlastumzAug 2, 20151 votes

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Or, you know, instant point-and-click CC tied to a lot of burst is actually a counter to Ahri.

Then there's the fact that

-Tibbers can body block spells you were aiming at Annie. -Annie has stronger teamfight potential and can play anti-assasson, making it much harder for you to be aggressive and dive. -Read the OP. I actually play against Annies that know how to zone and use their massive level-6 powerspike to their advantage. You're unranked.

Fact of the matter is Ahri capitalizes off the possibility of error, of which Annie has little to none.

Fact of the matter is if you cannot flash away in the time it takes annie to flash and wait on the Tibbers cast time animation it doesn't really matter who you are playing- you deserve to die.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 2, 20151 votes

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Fact of the matter is if you cannot flash away in the time it takes annie to flash and wait on the Tibbers cast time animation it doesn't really matter who you are playing- you deserve to die.

Annie's flash Tibbers is almost instant if you're playing against someone with 60-70 or less ping.

You can't flash out of it unless they're fucking bad.

Popstar AhriAug 1, 20151 votes

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You must be a bad Ahri if you have Annie problems.

lol

XrusaAug 1, 20152 votes

It's literally a 0.5s ms boost...the compensation for removal of DFG was her charm granting 20% bonus dmg to the target, and was removed. She was later given the ms as a buff to put her into a place that wasn't so garbage. So chill.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 1, 20152 votes

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It's literally a 0.5s ms boost...the compensation for removal of DFG was her charm granting 20% bonus dmg to the target, and was removed. She was later given the ms as a buff to put her into a place that wasn't so garbage. So chill.

The MS was put in there when Charm's damage amp was removed.

She also got a +20 base on E at rank 5, a (reverted next patch) buff to her W's damage, as well as bug-fixes that made her W have a lower arming time and her R less likely to fail jumping through walls.

Then she got a few other bugfixes later on.

Also, from 5.2 to now she went from 58% winrate to 52% to 54% she isn't garbage in the slightest. Especially considering I got to Plat 1 back when she had a 49% winrate.

WalkingInACircleAug 1, 20152 votes

No, she lost her charm damage amp for the MS buff, to make her more the mobility mage she is.

It doesn't even get her very far, about 200 extra units. Don't believe me? Try it yourself! Line Ahri up with a minion wave (325 MS vs her 330) and use her q behind her, see how far she gets. It's about the distance between two minions.

Rins Thigh SocksAug 1, 20151 votes

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No, she lost her charm damage amp for the MS buff, to make her more the mobility mage she is.

It doesn't even get her very far, about 200 extra units. Don't believe me? Try it yourself! Line Ahri up with a minion wave (325 MS vs her 330) and use her q behind her, see how far she gets. It's about the distance between two minions.

It's not about how far you get in terms of distance it's about how far it launches her in skirmishes. Not only do you get to launch a nuke but you get about 200-300 units to the right/left of your opponent, allowing you to juke their spells much more easily as well.

Sir YamazukiAug 1, 20151 votes

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No, she lost her charm damage amp for the MS buff, to make her more the mobility mage she is.

It doesn't even get her very far, about 200 extra units. Don't believe me? Try it yourself! Line Ahri up with a minion wave (325 MS vs her 330) and use her q behind her, see how far she gets. It's about the distance between two minions.

"A little" is better than nothing. People need to stop acting like any form of mobility is not valuable. I see Ahri's constantly be able to get away or dodge an ability just because of the move speed on the Q.

WalkingInACircleAug 1, 20153 votes

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"A little" is better than nothing. People need to stop acting like any form of mobility is not valuable. I see Ahri's constantly be able to get away or dodge an ability just because of the move speed on the Q.

Sure its useful. But people overplay how far it goes when complaining about it, comparing it to actual dashes. It doesn't allow her safer poke than seige mages who shoot from further away than Ahri can get with it. It doesn't provide as much gank safety or kill pressure as other real dashes like Leblanc's w or Fizz's troll pole.

Sir YamazukiAug 1, 20151 votes

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Sure its useful. But people overplay how far it goes when complaining about it, comparing it to actual dashes. It doesn't allow her safer poke than seige mages who shoot from further away than Ahri can get with it. It doesn't provide as much gank safety or kill pressure as other real dashes like Leblanc's w or Fizz's troll pole.

No one other than you is comparing it to a dash. If the extra movement did nothing then Riot would not have added it. The issue is you just aren't giving it its proper value. If it serves to do nothing, then who cares of it's removed then, right?

Rins Thigh SocksAug 1, 20151 votes

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Sure its useful. But people overplay how far it goes when complaining about it, comparing it to actual dashes. It doesn't allow her safer poke than seige mages who shoot from further away than Ahri can get with it. It doesn't provide as much gank safety or kill pressure as other real dashes like Leblanc's w or Fizz's troll pole.

That's the thing though. It's just an extra thing thrown in there that can (and should) be easily trimmed from her kit because altogether it's simply providing too much power.

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not true. i think the q's movment speed meaning is that you can aim better the true damge of it. i love to combine it ith homgurd you gust run superfast.dont forget that she is mage/assasin,she needs to have kiting tools yet having nuke damge,riot just buffed her kiting because her assasin part was nerfed. in addition she is countered hard by and last thing she has mana issus..

Q's movement speed allows you to land the backswing of Orb, juke skillshots, gapclose for that extra autoattack damage, land your Charm more easily, and kite. If you think it's only for landing the backswing of Orb you're terribly fucking mistaken.
She's not hard-countered by anyone. There's enough outplay potential in her kit to deal with almost anyone.
No. No no fucking no. She has absolutely no real mana issues unless you don't get Morello's.

R EAug 1, 20151 votes

not true. i think the q's movment speed meaning is that you can aim better the true damge of it. i love to combine it ith homgurd you gust run superfast.dont forget that she is mage/assasin,she needs to have kiting tools yet having nuke damge,riot just buffed her kiting because her assasin part was nerfed. in addition she is countered hard by Annie Malzahar and Yasuo last thing she has mana issus..

Rins Thigh SocksAug 2, 20151 votes

Bump.

Popstar AhriAug 2, 20151 votes

Yasuo is currently the 2nd hardest and the 7th weakest champ in the game. They need to buff his W to at least 6 seconds of duration or a lower cooldown, and adding in more base AD

PiVoRxAug 2, 20151 votes

Her Q is doing 3 things at once, Riot should remove at least 2.

AbyssphereAug 2, 20151 votes

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Her Q is doing 3 things at once, Riot should remove at least 2.

There are no other abilities that do multiple things?

WalkingInACircleAug 2, 20151 votes

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There are no other abilities that do multiple things?

He's a Master Yi main. He surely knows nothing about overloaded Qs.

PiVoRxAug 2, 20151 votes

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He's a Master Yi main. He surely knows nothing about overloaded Qs.

Oh yea, lets comapre Yi to Ahri. Well done. Remind me how many times Yi was picked in LCS and how many Ahri?

Back on track. Her Q is AoE, Deals true damage, gives a speed buff, and builds stacks for passive. Beside she is only mage in the game that does true damage, and most of it from any other true damage user, so she's also a tank buster.

Is there something that Ahri is bad at? I dont see anything.