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Ziggs is a really strong counter pick in this meta.

Rins Thigh Socks··2 votes·690 views

The main ADCs are immobile. Jhin suffers worse than Ashe or Sivir due to his ult being a gigantic, "Insert ultimate here." Sign.

Ziggs outranges the immobile, meta mages Vlad, Viktor, and Cassiopeia, meaning he gets a pretty free lane to farm safely in considering the two champions only do really well against opponents they can stay in range of and kite.

The best support can't do shit to mitigate his ultimate to protect his carry.

And these sound like qualifications for just about any long ranged mage, right? What sets Ziggs apart from Lux or Xerath?

Objective control (mainly towers). Due to the first blood tower bounty as well as his better overall objective control than Lux and Xerath he is a far better champion in the meta. I watched my buddy yesterday take the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth tower in a game because of a combination of Ziggs' poke, passive, and Satchel Charge execute.

Of course, Zed is still alright. Kat's pretty ok, and LeBlanc gets some decent play time so he's still just a counter pick, but in a good matchup with a Jhin being the enemy team's ADC and he's probably the strongest midlaner at the moment.

8 Comments

archerno13 votes

And how is he gonna survive laning phase?

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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And how is he gonna survive laning phase?

Well that's why I said counter pick. You don't pick him into an assassin you wait until they pick a mage with a lower range because 3 ~700-800 range teamfighters are considered the best midlaners at the moment.

Then you get a free lane and you farm up with ease because let's be honest Ziggs has no trouble farming and neither Vik, Cassie, or Vlad can properly engage on him without blowing flash.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

IIRC, Ziggs can do fairly well against some assassins due to his range and safety.

After a certain point, you don't even have to leave your tower's range to farm and Morellonomicon + two Doran's Rings is enough to mitigate your mana costs. They can either tower-dive you or sit mid-lane the entire game (which prevents them from roaming).

I've had a lot of fun using my Satchel Charge to screw with Zed's ultimate on a great many occasions since I can just toss it under my feet during his animation and activate it before he can cast his abilities.

Rins Thigh Socks1 votes

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IIRC, Ziggs can do fairly well against some assassins due to his range and safety.

After a certain point, you don't even have to leave your tower's range to farm and Morellonomicon + two Doran's Rings is enough to mitigate your mana costs. They can either tower-dive you or sit mid-lane the entire game (which prevents them from roaming).

I've had a lot of fun using my Satchel Charge to screw with Zed's ultimate on a great many occasions since I can just toss it under my feet during his animation and activate it before he can cast his abilities.

Yeah he can very easily and safely farm but what makes him strong is his ability to go on the offensive and siege so absurdly hard at the moment and snipe out carries sitting all the way in the back of fights.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Oh, I know. While I haven't played him much this season, I loved him in Season 5.

Fun times.

Meep Man1 votes

With his Q farming and W. Ziggs can farm from about 1000 units away if you build a Tear on him and maybe get another Doran's Ring if you really need it

Rins Thigh Socks2 votes

I legitimately don't understand how the most upvoted post was from someone who clearly didn't read 90% of the OP.

"How is he gonna survive laning phase"

IDFK how does a counterpick against low engage potential with a 1200 range low CD low mana AoE nuke get through laning phase you fucking tell me.

Please here's a bump lemme see some intelligent discussion this time around.

CaptnJakSparrow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wv0YejWq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-16T05:56:30.972+0000)

I legitimately don't understand how the most upvoted post was from someone who clearly didn't read 90% of the OP.

"How is he gonna survive laning phase"

IDFK how does a counterpick against low engage potential with a 1200 range low CD low mana AoE nuke get through laning phase you fucking tell me.

Please here's a bump lemme see some intelligent discussion this time around.

It's gameplay and bronze for a reason Rock.

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