Swain's ult right now feels so weak.
What's the point in a sustain ult when everyone bursts you down faster than you can actually sustain and before you can detonate?
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IMHO, they should just nerf the damage and in exchange buff the sustain sky high. That's kind of what Swain was, in ult mode, a sustain tank that was a royal pain to kill.
Considering how easy it is for Swain to be knocked away by the likes of Tristana, Vayne, Alistar, Janna etc... I think giving him a period of oversustain and nigh unkillable when sapping three targets isn't too bad.
You're using it wrong, then.
Played against Scarra and that guy just WOULD NOT die...or stop killing us...
if swain gets a little bit ahead he turns into an absolute beast, he needs no buffs. just smarter players
but...i thought
people wanted LESS damage
It feels powerful enough to me really. Don't forget that the healing doubles for every champion that's in it's AoE.
But yes, it takes some getting used to, with the explosion thing at the end as well.
I haven't played as him yet, but the first swain I saw got a pentakill in my game. luckily he was on our side, his aoe teamfighting was the onlything that saved that game.
the detonation thing is really wonky to use. There have been multiple times where I just:
"Aight easy kill just need to de... whatchu mean I can't detonate! Dude there is the freaking kill just detonate! DETONATE YOU DUMB BI.."
An ally has been Swain
"god dammit"
Also the static 120 cd on all ult ranks is uh... this ult really isn't that powerful to have that CD at level 18 Riot.
If they can make it so when you die without detonating it auto-detonates upon death that would be a good thing, kinda like Nunu ult.
So even if you get surprise bursted by Janna you still get the detonation off.
So to look at the CD and the auto-detonation upon death would make the R better I think.
Not to mention the friggin "soulfragment" system they gave him. Not only are you unable to use your ult unless you've recently cc'd or been near a cc'd enemy champion, to use your passive on (or landed a W). Not saying that getting the fragments is hard, but it feels kind of crap to be unable to ult when it's of CD.Not to mention that you can't reactivate your ult without full stacks. I can't count the 19 times I've died instead of getting a double kill, just because my ult didn't feel quite ready to burst. A very odd design choice.
... But that Q though ;)
Too much damage.
When he first came out on the PBE hit ult felt good, then they nerfed the healing and its meh.
I hate that you need so many items to feel like he is good and in this meta of game is set at 10 minutes its not a good fit for the meta
The purpose of the ult isn't to kill everybody with it.
It apples Rylais to all your targets constantly, keeping them in range for your Q spam, and gives you some regen so you can survive to spam Q.
It isn't a god-tier spell, and it shouldn't be if you consider how damn strong his Q is.