I want the next champion to have NO MOBILITY.

Bouffon dAnglais·Sep 16, 2015·285 votes·18,958 views

Anyone with me?

EDIT: Whoa. I'm not used to logging in and seeing 85 new notifications.

385 Comments

PennsSep 16, 2015101 votes

Inb4 "Omg shit champ doesnt even have mobility" on release. item 3070 Velkoz

Slamurai JackSep 16, 201563 votes

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Inb4 "Omg shit champ doesnt even have mobility" on release.

They can continue to think he's shit if they want. I like my burst, dps, siege, kite, control mage just the way he is.

AChanceOfReignSep 16, 20158 votes

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They can continue to think he's shit if they want. I like my burst, dps, siege, kite, control mage just the way he is.

Have you seen Sp4zie play Vel? its just stupid O-O

Slamurai JackSep 16, 201525 votes

The funniest part is that Sp4zie isn't even doing it right. He doesn't run cdr runes, leaving him at 25% whenever he doesn't have blue. He builds Morellos every game regardless of matchup even when Athenes would give him much needed extra mana regen and MR. He builds Zhonyas every game, even when there's no real use for one. He tends to leave Liandries until after Deathcap which is highly inefficient given how high Vel's base damages are. He runs AP quints instead of MS quints even though that 15 AP makes almost no difference and the extra 4.5% MS makes an enormous difference. His full build doesn't even include a void staff which is the most bizarre choice of all. He's a very good Vel'koz player; his gameplay is clear evidence of that. But his item/rune/mastery setups are nowhere near optimal and he would experience even more success if he tuned those up.

Beacon 0F LightSep 16, 20158 votes

I think stuff like the Zhonyas and "Pen and Teller" is for the sake of making his videos and streams entertaining. Zhonyas can make for some funny moments. But I do agree with you.

ScarnMichaelScarSep 16, 20153 votes

item 3003 item 3135 item 3151 item 3020 item 3157 item 3285

scaling cd glyphs magic pen marks and scaling hp seals

either 3 scaling cdr quints or 2 scaling and 1 magic pen.

anything else built on him is wrong.

athenes is wrong. on 80% of mids its wrong. if you're smart no matter what mid you play you should NEVER have a need for this as long as you're smart with zoning and last hitting with item 1056 x2 morellos is wrong unless you're up against swain.

archangels staff is the only good item for mana whores because it keeps you in fights for the longest time as long as you have good positioning.

edit; whatever downvote all you want, but im the velkoz main who averaged a 72% winrate over 60 games with him last season, and a 55% winrate this season(i admittedly don't play him as much since i burned myself out on him)

this build guarantees i never have mana problems, gives me that little extra bit of damage, and i hit 30% cdr at level 13.

i do very will with this build on all of the mids that i play Lux Velkoz Morgana Veigar Viktor Azir (i bring flat cdr with azir and sub luden's with nasher's for max cdr 2nd item)

Slamurai JackSep 16, 201513 votes

Lol. That's all I have to say to that. Lol.

WolfeurSep 17, 20153 votes

OH DARN!

pripustasSep 16, 201571 votes

What if we make a turret champion? Player would have 4 attacks to cast, but they cannot move on their own. But! The champion is in a cart, and their teammates have to roll them around the map.

Doggie KrugerSep 16, 201513 votes

Azir is probably the closest we'll get to a turret champion with his passive.

SH AzykanSep 16, 201530 votes

Heimerdinger item 3070

videorfeakSep 16, 201555 votes

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What if we make a turret champion? Player would have 4 attacks to cast, but they cannot move on their own. But! The champion is in a cart, and their teammates have to roll them around the map.

They literally get carried in ranked

pripustasSep 16, 20154 votes

good1

Rinky DinkySep 16, 201543 votes

Then you guys would just bitch about them doing too much damage/having too much utility/doing to much damage/being too tank/doing too much damage

You will literally bitch about anything that you can.

SeductiveGrandpaSep 17, 20154 votes

Yeah, gonna agree here, whether or not the new champ has a whole new kit thats completely original with no mobility and no 3 hit skills, we'll still see the obligatory "bad new/ op new / cancer new champ" thread posts. Im fine with the Kindred ones because after seeing them used I know their complaints are just people unwilling to try to use them.

"Useless R" my ass.

Ignis0Sep 16, 201541 votes

TahmKench No one seems to remember. He has 0 mobility besides his TF like Ult.

StephenizgodSep 16, 20151 votes

fuck that champion he is toxic and needs to be erased!! If i could choose 1 champion to remove from the game it would be him...

insaiyanbaccaSep 16, 201512 votes

idk why, hes pretty easy to deal with if you aren't bad....

StephenizgodSep 16, 20155 votes

I hate it when he eats me.... NOTHING SHOULD EAT MORDEKAISER!!!!!!

Voluug13Sep 16, 201520 votes

Tamh heard Mordes were good on iron.

MandaariSep 17, 20154 votes

Actually when he was released I saw quite a lot of comments about how people were pleased with his lack of mobility.

RiotjmccaffreySep 17, 201524 votes

Prime Immotile

MasterVidallisSep 17, 201534 votes

I want a champion with a passive that makes people take 10% true damage max health everytime they dash nearby him. His name will be Fuk-U

Ignis0Sep 17, 20153 votes

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I want a champion with a passive that makes people take 10% true damage max health everytime they dash nearby him. His name will be Fuk-U

This.

The LexerSep 17, 20152 votes

NO! We can't counter mobility with percent max health true damage and vise versa

DrCyanideSep 17, 20153 votes

Urgot - Come on ref! That was a blink! Both ways! You should at least take damage too!

Jungle Lux GodSep 18, 20153 votes

No, this champion would be a void champion named "Fah'kew".

LankPantsSep 18, 20154 votes

And his flavour text can be "hates blind monks"

JMoormannSep 18, 20152 votes

I would feel sorry for Yasuo and Kalista , if I didn't hate them so much.

Tempest656Sep 17, 20152 votes

Only if the Champion name is MorningLightMountain :D

AmazingBeaverSep 16, 201513 votes

A champ that is basically a tower ^^ it would be something new :P

Kim Grin UnSep 16, 201512 votes

So like the last release, Tahm? Lol (Excluding ult of course)

MalzaharAnyLaneSep 16, 201510 votes

I want more Malzahars, Vel'koz's, Azirs, Xeraths and Syndras.

Game needs more unstoppable damage walls with hard ganks and 0 escapes that can be jumped on (unlike Zhonyasdinger). Ones that don't give a shit about Zed or juggernauts.

Malzahar's kit was so accidentally fking BRILLIANT and it's aged PERFECTLY over time with a minimum of changes over FIVE YEARS, meanwhile the same dev releases Riven and knew he fked up within a year of her release...

And Brand was always Malzahar reskinned with a bunch of crap shifted around. It feels so bad playing him when you're pro with Malzahar but if you never touched Malzahar, Brand feels lovely... until you learn Malzahar.

Why are there no ADC's that work like Xerath? (anchor to position for increase range) Varus doesn't count. Urgot actually did this excellently back when his Q could go into fog of war, now he's just been meh ever since, despite seeing play at high levels.

ThumpinSep 17, 20155 votes

Why is Azir on that list?

Sir YamazukiSep 16, 20158 votes

If they release an immobile champion, that isn't a support, they are usually greatly compensated for it in some way. Not exactly sure how that's any better than mobility.

Sinister MarsSep 16, 20154 votes

The older champions don't benefit from this flawed system. Champion diversity? How about Champion viability.

RaptameiSep 16, 201524 votes

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The older champions don't benefit from this flawed system. Champion diversity? How about Champion viability.

Yeah, Riot should buff immobile champions to make up for their lack of instant dashes.

Darius Garen Gangplank Mordekaiser

"But they have so much bonus movement speed from that one item that isn't part of their kit, so they're mobile!"

Kalista -boing- Kalista -boing- Kalista -boing- Kalista

Sinister MarsSep 16, 20152 votes

Can't tell if you're being serious..

I'm glad they did some reworks, sad that they didn't really implement them all that well, and pretty certain that everyone one mentioned would just eat spears in the face forever. Where are the counterplay opportunities in that?

RaptameiSep 16, 201521 votes

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Can't tell if you're being serious..

I'm glad they did some reworks, sad that they didn't really implement them all that well, and pretty certain that everyone one mentioned would just eat spears in the face forever. Where are the counterplay opportunities in that?

-facepalm- The point being, when Riot buffs immobile champs to actually have better stats than mobile ones, everyone loses their minds.

Ironclad DragonSep 17, 20158 votes

TahmKench I find it appalling how you make it sound as if I never transpired.

MazohistSep 16, 20153 votes

Nope.

Immobile champs are op and toxic, you just freeze the minion wave and wait some1 to dive you so kill them with ur ridiculos dmg fucking sick and tired of games where an anivia presses R then E to burst me to 15% HP.

SteelStallionSep 16, 201532 votes

i agree. i think immobile champions are toxic.

i want more fizz, riven and ekkos. healthy champions that actually take some skill

RalanrSep 16, 20152 votes

That's debatable.

Even if I feed with Fizz, I was able to get at least 10 kills last I remember. I personally despise melee champs that run off AP. You don't know until you look at their item build, which a lot of people don't seem to know how to do.

Have seen people build armor against Kat.

SteelStallionSep 16, 201529 votes

I was being sarcastic. Fizz Riven and Ekko are fucking cancerous and it pains me to see that people want more champions like them.

Ferus and FerrumSep 18, 20151 votes

I'm sensing you don't play these champs. People like champs that are both strong and fun to play. Outplaying people is fun and gives the player a sense of accomplishment, not that playing other champs doesn't. Same thing with new fiora. High damage and outplay potential, while also being fun as fuck. Hence the banworthy tag and "toxic" label Have to agree about fizz though. fucking fish bastard -_-

SteelStallionSep 18, 20152 votes

you just sort of described why people want to play these cancerous champions with extremely forgiving mobility and skills. Basically, people play shit like Fizz and Riven, they do really well because those are champions that are reaaaaally easy to do very well with, and then they feel good about themselves and go;

"Wow! I really out played that guy! I must be a great Fizz/Riven/Ekko/Whatever player." And then they feed themselves this delusion that they are amazing with a champion that is low skill high reward. And then they get extremely toxic whenever their team doesn't do well, or when THEY don't do well, because they assume since they had such an easy time winning a few games, they are amazing players and the only reason they're losing this particular game is because their team sucks or their jungler didn't gank or whatever.

And no, I don't play them. I HAVE played them (and they were fucking easy to dominate with), but I personally get a kick out of playing the hipster champions, like Galio and Zac and Aatrox and stuff.

I don't even think any of them are OP, mind you (except maybe Fizz), they're just very toxic champions that breed arrogance and delusions of grandeur in players who otherwise suck arse.