It's Time to Admit ADCs are Weak RN

QjTHqo3RTq·12/31/2016, 9:59:17 PM·3 votes·1,598 views

ADCs as a class, are totally underpowered. 99% of ADCs are now completely terrible for 2 simple facts that their build paths are restricted to crit items and that assassin update goals were a failure in every aspect. crit items build like crap, especially early. The handful adcs that are meta are there because they can use armor pen Draven or their kit is perfect for a bunch of weak kneed adcs Caitlyn Twitch Vayne Corki As for the Assassin Update, the goal of making assassins less snowbally while also giving time to react to their damage were both failures.

Firstly, as for crit items being the only viable option in botlane, you destory adcs that were using armor pen and were balanced around the power given by armor pen. You can see this example HEAVILY in Lucian, who was a complete monster with item 3071 item 3142 and now that these items are negligible on him, hes one of the worst adcs in the game. Other adcs that also suffer from this problem Tristana Jhin Ezreal Jhin KogMaw MissFortune are all adcs that had unique builds that got the champion nerfed, and later the item. Obviously, not all to the same degree, comparing ezreal to jhin in terms of power lost is laughable, but both suffered in power, even if jhin is unplayable outside of pick comps.

Ashe Jinx Varus Sivir are champs that unaffected by armor pen nerfs, however have been pretty weak overall for awhile, outside of a couple glimpses of power and then nerfs, returning them to a medicore or for varus, garbage state they were before. Basically most adcs are near their power level, which means most adcs are all around what around was tier 4 pick with Draven Twitch Caitlyn being tier 1. The differnce in a tier 4 pick and tier 1 are immense, and you see a massive curve of power as you go up tiers.

Secondly, this explanation will be much shorter, because its pretty obvious whats been going on assassins. They're fucking busted. Expect for talon, god bless that we add an ability that wasnt really helpful for talon's problems and that does no damage. As for the rest of the assassins, their burst time was shortened and we've been seeing ACTUAL oneshots. Khazix Rengar Katarina are the major offenders and staright up are opposites to what the assassin rework was supposed to do. These champions offer nothing but damage and snowball like crazy. These guys legitimately leave no counterplay for an adc that isnt a well timed flash or disappearing off the map. Vayne Their build paths are cheaper and stronger than crit items and even have better defensive options. The fact that assassins didnt see a serious wave of nerfs along with raid boss poppy is a complete fuck up.

In conclusion, a mixture of most adcs being in a overnerfed state and the assassin update showing that you can never slow down damage with more damage.

tl;dr fix crit items or give back armor pen, and nerf poppy and other assassins

8 Comments

Jbels12/31/2016, 10:03:13 PM3 votes

I'll admit that Marksmen are weak when Yasuo mains admit their champion is in need of being smacked with the nerf bat

Ralanr12/31/2016, 10:11:53 PM3 votes

On crit being crap early: That's the entire point of crit or at least in its itemization. You're suppose to build it up so you'll be strong late game as a late game class.

On adcs as a whole: I wouldn't really say adcs are mostly weak because of their itemization. They all build crit and functioned decently before they went full armor pen (In fact I'm not sure if Lucian really got nerfed during his armor pen builds. Probably did though).

The real reason (imo) that the class is weak is the constant 4-5 (mainly 4 because teleport ganks kinda suck now) ganks into bot lane early. Very few adcs can actually survive this or at least escape from it. And if they don't die, they are forced to retreat and lose CS while their opponent gets to farm up.

This nothing new. In fact this is what happened before the marksman update. Buffing the marksmen again to survive this would lead to a similar problem from the marksman update: 2-3 adcs per team that crowded out other roles from their solo lanes.

Irelia Bot12/31/2016, 10:00:53 PM2 votes

Marksmen are not weak

Instead focus your efforts on bot lane outer turret which actually is weak.

ChargeItDownMid12/31/2016, 10:12:26 PM2 votes

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