S for Support

QjTHqo3RTq··4 votes·635 views

I'm not sure what people are talking about when they're talking about S is hard for support to get, you just gotta go play some normals, and ks every single kill you possibly can, and buy targons since that will boost your cs, even if you're soraka.

Glad we implemented this system.

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DemonBoneJangles1 votes

sounds like you take the cheap way to get an easy s by making your team feel like your trolling, support isn't an easy role to play BECAUSE of the sacrifices the role makes to benefit the team, you can get kill but get them on your own if you want to, don't ks your team intentionally it just makes you look like a glory hog. and lastly targons is near useless on ranged supports because they cant use the execute passive they actually have to last hit the minion to use targons.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

QjTHqo3RTq2 votes

I feel like because I didn't do that obnoxious kappa thing at the end of a sarcastic post, you aren't grasping the idea this may be a complaint that this system encourages you to play counter productively to what a support is supposed to do, Soraka doesn't want to get targons, but if she does, her cs might be higher than other sorakas, so that counts towards her s. Supports dont want to ks, but they're encouraged to for that s.

And a small note about targons on ranged supports, it's not smart, but it's definitely doable, Thresh is a great example for it, but he gets a bit of a free pass thanks to flay passive. But you can last hit with soraka, it's just hard to do and you're probably gonna lose some minions

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] But hey good job thinking for two seconds and wondering why anyone would want a ksing janna in their game, you're a credit to your community

DemonBoneJangles2 votes

your ending game rank accounts for: Kills obviously assists more for supports cs for everyone and your impact on the game. You can go 25/4/5 and still get an A or lower if you didn't help with objectives and only sought kills. I just got an S on blitz with a 6/2/10 which normally gets me only a B- but since I was itemizing to take towers not get kills I was able to help secure more objectives during the game which led to the S

But I do understand your point after you clarified with your reply, and honestly I don't even know what kappa is on boards I just find it annoying myself ^_^ [slayer-jinx-wink]

QjTHqo3RTq1 votes

Kappa is a term you find in twitch chat which basically means "sarcasm"

Also 6 kills is a HUGE number compared to your assists, I myself only usually end up with 5 in 40 minutes game, and I usually have around 20-30 something assists.

Finally, I was trying to look through your games for that blitzcrank game to see how a support itemizes to "take down turrets" but all I could find is tp supportsticks and a thresh with a zzort, wits end and what appears to be the making of a rageblade. _Please _ do not build these items on Thresh, if you want damage on Thresh, which you shouldn't unless youre top or mid, do not build on hit effects. For top Thresh my build looks something like this item 3078 item 3146 item 3053 item 3742 item 3009 item 3143 with some variance in the boots, steraks and omen. As for mid Thresh i go item 3100 item 3285 item 3089 item 3157 item 3027 item 3146

Please, please, just build item 3401 item 2045 item 3009 item 3190 item 3742 item 3050

Thresh in a support role doesn't work well if he's also trying to do damage, you can bring thunderlords for some crazy early game burst, but dont brother with damage items. Also exhaust or iginite, the rest is like a mid laner bringing tp, like gee thanks katarnia, your 1000 health bar is going to help a ton.

But I do see your point, and thanks for realizing for what i was trying to say

DemonBoneJangles1 votes

ill help here lol since at the time of posting my previous reply I had just finished that blitz match. then ill explain thresh. my normal build for turret taking (not just on blitz but on my tank supports in general) is as follows item 3512 , item 3009 , item 3056 ,item 3060 , item 3301 , and a situational item for blitz its item 3078 because it stacks with his E for x4 damage on a single hit

Now thresh, its counter productive to his E passive but I find tank attack speed thresh to benefit me more than slow attack tank thresh, as since I normally lack the damage to browbeat someone into a grey screen I build the attack speed to allow me to deal damage faster to turrets,

my goal as support is never kills however in my blitz game my adc was lagging so it was either turtle the lane under turret and wait to lose the lane or start trying to set up kills for my adc and jungle, now there were a few times I was just able to kill the enemy without help (lux support based infront of me she never saw the hook ^_^) but overall I was actually playing way more passive than I normally do as a support because my adc was lagging as badly as she was and I could tell it wasn't intentional, that said I made the decision to get our tower then help our failing top lane and finally mid, we forced a surrender at the 25-30 minute mark not sure how long it took, it also helped I had a very friendly team and a competent jungle (my second primary)

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

QjTHqo3RTq1 votes

Man, Thresh seeks to gain NO benfit out of attack speed, only if it's plus 2 hours and you like 300 souls will you be doing any more amount of damage of thresh with ad. As it stands if you want mad damage your build looks something like this item 3031 item 3087 item 3078 item 3072 item 3053 item 3009 and your basic combo would be q them in, dont follow the q, e them away and aa them, rinse and repeat.

But Thresh in the support role does NOT want to do damage, he doesnt want to focus on said damage, he wants to abuse that sweet 45% cdr, 3.3 second q second cooldown. So please at most dead mans on support thresh

Narvuntien1 votes

As a support main people not buying item 2049 on their support drives me mad >:/.

I have got S on support plenty of times... you just have to get lots and lots of assists and kill participation. this is easiest on healer supports or those with spammable shields. Just as an ally is about to get a kill you shield or heal them.. easy assists.

then avoid dying as much as possible.

edit: also roam to get that kill participation

QjTHqo3RTq1 votes

But that's 800 gold thats not being spent of my Support Hat item 3089

On a more serious note, I agree it's easy to get S ranks on supports DEPENDING on who you're playing. If you're a backliner, its easy to avoid deaths while going about the map warding and sweeping. However, if you're someone like poor Nautilus who's more likely than not to die in a fight, he's struggling to get that s now since his deaths are high. I'm not saying the system is some kind of horrible broken system, but it does encourage stupid god damn play due the fact supports don't have a unique system for their grading, I would go so far to say each role should have a difference of grading.

JonakaTrain1 votes

i main sonya and have found it difficult to get s. The only time i have had s's was when i racked up a high kill count and moderate cs count because of a missing adc or other unuasal situations. since i have had mastery 5 on her I cant seem to get higher than a+ which i get alot.

Your Real Mom1 votes

You actually don't. All you have to do is a get a reasonable amount of assists with minimal deaths. I've had games where I felt my S was unwarranted even but I still got it. I would say it's one of the easiest roles to get an S on just because of the lack of effort you actually have to put in to it. The only way this fails is if the game is less than 20 minutes long.

fedbia1 votes

I don't know. So pissed right now. Have 2 mastery 7 tokens for Soraka and sure enough I just finish a game with 1/0/18 with a team that, for the most part, had to be walked through the park with hands clasped ever so gently.. only to find that I got an S-?!?!?!?!!!!! WTH do I have to do to ensure I get a guaranteed S or above?!?!?!?!!![zombie-nunu-bummed]

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