Cannot win 1 game in silver 4...

FluffyBunnies··2 votes·732 views

Finally got out of silver 5, and i lose every single game in silver 4....

Its like everyone got good all of the sudden past silver 4....

I honestly just need to learn a better championKassadin Is a pretty shitty champion to carry with. He is mobile sure, he can one combo people sure... But you have to rely on your team if they steal kills. You hit a point where you do no damage at all unless your team also knows how kassadin works and makes sure to let you take the last hits on kills you made plays for, OR lets you last hit a kill they dont need and feel you would be better off having.

I know this is how the game works with almost all champions, there is a point where you let someone take gold if they are a hard carry and fell behind in order to get them back in the game.

Some champions can focus farm and still have a great teamfight. Fizz Fiora Ahri Akali Katarina Ryze Zed to name a few. They all have roles in a fight which can be played even when you have fallen a bit behind. They may die during the fight BUT they can accomplish something. Kassadin is one of the few assassins whom when you fall behind with have trouble actually playing your proper role of squishy assassin. He has an escape which will have to be used as your engage in MOST situations, but not all which leaves you out of luck middle game before your CDR is higher (as you have fallen behind at this point and lack items). Really it feels like his one chance to get back into the game is to finish off someone middle game who has one to three shot hp left.

Maybe he could use a buff in some regard that effects his catching up game as an assassin. Assassins are meant to feel very all or nothing, carry or feed. Just seems like kassadin feels too much that way, as his play % shows.

8 Comments

Serevas2 votes

I personally think Kassadin is a difficult champion to simply play all the time. He has a lot of bad matchups in mid lane, especially right now with assassins being so common. He has the problem of having very poor wave clear as you typically have to ult and blow your force pulse, which requires 6 ability stacks to even have access to. Meanwhile just about every other mid laner has better waveclear options than Kassadin, so in a sense that puts your team at a disadvantage right from the off if you don't get ahead.

Additionally I think he's a difficult champion to play around, he's got a ramp up time and sometimes a game can be lost before you even really start doing much in the way of damage. The whole getting ahead thing is exceptionally important for Kassadin, and there are games where that simply isn't going to happen. An additional problem is that typically you're not going to be able to solo carry a game, you need at least one other player who can either follow up or do the preemptive damage so that you're able to clean up.

I actually love Kassadin as a champion, but I feel like he's a very situational pick, so extending your champion pool to one or two other picks that are all around decent choices wouldn't be a terrible idea.

Nhifu1 votes

I think your problem is building ROA first, honestly it only works on swain

BestSupportGold1 votes

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I think your problem is building ROA first, honestly it only works on swain

And Brand

BestSupportGold1 votes

I think you should focus on Brand Swain Viktor for some Mid lane champs. They offer a great deal of wave clear, cc, and damage output. Also, Brand's ultimate is great for team fights, and that will allow your other teammates to clean up if you die. Try them out, and I'm sure you'll get out of Silver 4.

Once you hit Silver 3, you can start with Kat, and Zed, and Yas. I've seen a trend of those mid champs when I was there.

FluffyBunnies1 votes

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I think you should focus on Brand Swain Viktor for some Mid lane champs. They offer a great deal of wave clear, cc, and damage output. Also, Brand's ultimate is great for team fights, and that will allow your other teammates to clean up if you die. Try them out, and I'm sure you'll get out of Silver 4.

Once you hit Silver 3, you can start with Kat, and Zed, and Yas. I've seen a trend of those mid champs when I was there.

I dont know viktor at all, but i know swain and brand. Used to main brand.

BestSupportGold1 votes

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I dont know viktor at all, but i know swain and brand. Used to main brand.

Practice with him, and use those 3 and I bet you will see improvements.

PrinceOfStorms1 votes

If you can't win games in Silver 4 it's because you getting there was a fluke.

Calabok1 votes

More space open in Bronze V

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