i would love to know how you justify "you are where you belong"

zane yalgir·Mar 1, 2015·3 votes·1,037 views

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746595704/211846831?tab=overview this is about every game of ranked i play 2 guess as to why we lsot

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Leti the YetiMar 1, 20153 votes

well why did you lose? I surely dont see it what I see is that everyone on the rift seemingly dies after they respawn no, your score doesnt stand out to me Kills dont win games, what you do with those kills wins game I have no fuqing clue what you or your team did so I wont judge you on that BUT one thing that is concrete is death gives the other team gold, you contributed to their wallets as much as the next guy and they seemed to have put that cash to good use, like winning the game I would prefer that all you mtherfkers didnt die so much, good job caitlyn!

pE4CbxDPQOMar 1, 20152 votes

Pretty brutal. Team let you down. Early first blood, early dragon, early double kill, more kills, etc. IMO this game is kind of dumb that you can't just 1v5 carry if you get that far ahead. Maybe we should get more gold and xp from kills, but no one would like that- because they give up first blood a lot.

RenailleMar 3, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-01T08:54:27.469+0000)

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746595704/211846831?tab=overview this is about every game of ranked i play 2 guess as to why we lsot

Every game? Your last one you went 1/7/2

Also your builds kind of suck.

zane yalgirMar 3, 20151 votes

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Every game? Your last one you went 1/7/2

Also your builds kind of suck.

tells some one he sucks but is worse then the one hes saying sucks nice http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/207169145 circle jerk someone else you games are horrible at best

Ice Weasel XMar 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-01T08:54:27.469+0000)

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746595704/211846831?tab=overview this is about every game of ranked i play 2 guess as to why we lsot

Really? Here's your Ranked Match History: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/211846831

2 games before the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746514865/211846831?tab=overview You were 0/13/1 as Zed.

3 games before the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746427807/211846831?tab=overview

You were 6/10/4 as Sion and got carried heavily by your teammates.
Vi: 11/2/5
Annie: 10/1/8
Jinx: 9/3/13
Karma: 2/4/20

4 games before the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746403700/211846831?tab=overview You were 1/8/1 on Sion.

2 games after the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1747882958/211846831?tab=overview You were 0/7/1 on Thresh.

5 games after the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1747911753/211846831?tab=overview You were 1/7/2 on Xin Zhao.

9 games after the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1748897448/211846831?tab=overview You were 1/7/2 again on Xin Zhao.

10 games after the one you linked: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1749037815/211846831?tab=overview You were 4/11/1 on Annie.

But please, regale us with further yarns of derring-do and how your unmatched prowess was negated completely by your teammates.

zane yalgirMar 1, 20151 votes

we had an ace instead of going nexus turrets like i did cait and blitz went to the top inhibitor two hits from both turrets soloed at the 34min mark

shitco was useless out side of dragon early on me and syndra tried but bot and jungle too heavy welcome to the reason im bronze

seriously gg wp riot elo my ass

next one guess why we lost this one? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746626681/211846831?tab=overview

cuddlykitten4Mar 3, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-03-01T10:05:54.509+0000)

we had an ace instead of going nexus turrets like i did cait and blitz went to the top inhibitor two hits from both turrets soloed at the 34min mark

shitco was useless out side of dragon early on me and syndra tried but bot and jungle too heavy welcome to the reason im bronze

seriously gg wp riot elo my ass

next one guess why we lost this one? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746626681/211846831?tab=overview

You realize you just said "welcome to the reason I'm bronze" right? You understand that that means you are in your correct placement right? Want to get out of it man? For real, all you have to do is this. When the game ends don't think "how did my team screw me over" think "what things did I do wrong?" Even if you do amazing you make mistakes. Would it have been more productive to go with the two who went top instead of staying by yourself? Is there a few deaths you could have avoided? Not saying it's your fault so please don't take that from this. I'm saying that no one is at fault here. Bronze is a tough tier in the sense that if people don't know what they are doing they will end up in bronze as well as people who got unlucky, or whatever fate brought them to bronze. (I have noticed over time that even though they say carry yourself out with someone your good with that it's actually better if you let everyone who asks for a specific role have their role. It leads to better team morale, and sometimes something as simple as an argument will throw the entire game from champ select)

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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You realize you just said "welcome to the reason I'm bronze" right? You understand that that means you are in your correct placement right? Want to get out of it man? For real, all you have to do is this. When the game ends don't think "how did my team screw me over" think "what things did I do wrong?" Even if you do amazing you make mistakes. Would it have been more productive to go with the two who went top instead of staying by yourself? Is there a few deaths you could have avoided? Not saying it's your fault so please don't take that from this. I'm saying that no one is at fault here. Bronze is a tough tier in the sense that if people don't know what they are doing they will end up in bronze as well as people who got unlucky, or whatever fate brought them to bronze. (I have noticed over time that even though they say carry yourself out with someone your good with that it's actually better if you let everyone who asks for a specific role have their role. It leads to better team morale, and sometimes something as simple as an argument will throw the entire game from champ select)

you understand that your commenting with out reading right? you understand that the reason we lsot was becuase two retards the adc/supp went to an inhibitor not the nexus right? you understand that the turret i got on this page 34:08 mark was the nexus turret right? you understnad that the inhibtor icon was next to cait right?? you understand i was two fucking hits from getting the second enemy nexus turret right? you understand that this qoute "welcome to the reason I'm bronze" that your oddly proud of is reference to the shit choice cait and blitz made right?you udnerstnad that their chocie that lost us the match right? you understand that cait never team fought and shitco fed right? if you aren't going to read the post then don't comment trash like you is why people like me flame are you even trying? the answer is no and if thats the best you got there your human trash.

** you have not read any of this** you are not understanding any of this so refrain from posting

we had an ace instead of going nexus turrets like i did. cait and blitz went to the top inhibitor two hits from both turrets soloed at the 34min mark. i started with ** "this is about every game of ranked i play 2 guess as to why we lsot"**

that one qurestion tells me if you looked or not this is about every game of ranked i play 2 guess as to why we lost wards damage turret kill timers runes build paths deaths cs turret kill counts

it gives you all the information to make an informed opinnion you sir did not look

edit missed the link to the game http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746595704/211846831?tab=overview

Volt CruelerzMar 1, 20151 votes

The fact of the matter is, if you keep getting matched with people that suck, that means your overall contribution to win rate is no better than them.

zane yalgirMar 2, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Volt Cruelerz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-03-01T12:26:36.853+0000)

The fact of the matter is, if you keep getting matched with people that suck, that means your overall contribution to win rate is no better than them.

and where did you find this wonderful statistic cause on my good days its a 1 man carry and on my so so days it a fair job

Volt CruelerzMar 2, 20153 votes

That's just by definition how the team version of elo works.

EDIT: I took a look at your match history. Your bad games aren't just "so-so." You feed the crap out of the enemy team with k/d ratios of things like 6/13, 0/13, 6/10, 1/10, etc. Even some of your decent games you still give away a lot of kills. This game isn't about who gets the most kills. It's about who wins. Perhaps you need to focus more on objective control or something, but you definitely need to not die so much. Another thing to work on is getting better at csing. Some games your cs counts are kinda decent, but other games they're abysmal. CS gold adds up.

zane yalgirMar 3, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Volt Cruelerz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-03-02T16:14:43.918+0000)

That's just by definition how the team version of elo works.

EDIT: I took a look at your match history. Your bad games aren't just "so-so." You feed the crap out of the enemy team with k/d ratios of things like 6/13, 0/13, 6/10, 1/10, etc. Even some of your decent games you still give away a lot of kills. This game isn't about who gets the most kills. It's about who wins. Perhaps you need to focus more on objective control or something, but you definitely need to not die so much. Another thing to work on is getting better at csing. Some games your cs counts are kinda decent, but other games they're abysmal. CS gold adds up.

ya especially when in bronze you get feeders who see you doing good cause you can cs and start taking that cs diamond paltnimum you guys need to learn to stop making advice it doesnt work since 80% of the shit down here is to horrible for your advice to work

zane yalgirMar 3, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-03T12:01:25.298+0000)

ya especially when in bronze you get feeders who see you doing good cause you can cs and start taking that cs diamond paltnimum you guys need to learn to stop making advice it doesnt work since 80% of the shit down here is to horrible for your advice to work

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1748897448/211846831?tab=overview thers also this the top feeds fails to mia 8+ times and bot feeds a double to the nemy adc...

there is no late gmae to this this is bronze what part of this dont you understand my laning i can got 8/2 or 3/0 and then lose becuase mid and bot did what nasus jinx and mundo did this game there is no recovery when you cant cs cant assit and hell i had smite and i was to scared to even try to contest nid for dragon cuase of this fuck face nasus fucked up so damn hard literaly 2 deaths and nid roamed targeting guess who?

dont get me wrong props to nid for doing such a good job but there are to many games in bronze like this where yii/firoa my junglers where banned shit ass hat took lane of choice after banning picks for renaming slots and then said ass hole feeds loses and we never recover all cause there shit teamamtes feeding

get gud learn to cs focus objectives dont die

these are all no shit answers the problem inst the individual most games its the shit teams fucking up was to god damn hard my xin is sloid its not good and ty pos team for baning the jungle i needed and is almost never picked in bronze firoa

Volt CruelerzMar 3, 20151 votes

I was in Bronze in S3, so I know a bit more about this than you think.

And if you're playing seriously, that means that only four people on your team might feed whereas five people on the enemy team might feed. Therefore, there's more average suck potential for them than there is for your team.

zane yalgirMar 3, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Volt Cruelerz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=00040000000000000001,timestamp=2015-03-03T13:34:19.274+0000)

I was in Bronze in S3, so I know a bit more about this than you think.

And if you're playing seriously, that means that only four people on your team might feed whereas five people on the enemy team might feed. Therefore, there's more average suck potential for them than there is for your team.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1749037815/211846831?tab=overview ya and im on that enemy team regularly as last pick, forever op. im always last pick the few rare games im not are good. you know shit idk how s3 was but this season is horrible

told fizz fizz had his knees kicked in champ select told mid ad mid was a horrible idea so he swaped to smoehting he couldnt use ofcourse j4 still thinks j4 is good rushed warrior faceplaming at an idiot then i had to supoport the shit adc gold vacum ashe who im pretty sure only rarly uses her aa on the enmy champs if i had csed my damgesd wouldve doubled where as hers was a weak 10k even with csing

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1748897448/211846831?tab=overview 4v5 and we lsot becuase shit fuck face nasus took top what do you know agian the lane i want lsot to a feeder fed nid 2 kills didnt mia she roamed mid and boom killed me when i was one shot and wasted the neemies mid ignite flash of course lux didnt get a kill there but i did good minus the death cuase of no mia and for all i know she had backed its a fucking nasus top after all

bronze is unplayable

Volt CruelerzMar 3, 20151 votes

Look, I'm not gonna deny you'll have bad games, but until you take responsibility for staying down there, you're going to stay down there.

When I was in bronze, I did have to put up with feeders and afks. I even won lane the vast majority of the time. I'd come out of laning phase as (old) Xerath being like 4/0/0 and ahead in cs most games. I blamed my team for losses until I got better at roaming and objectives. Now I still win lane and now I can actually carry the game whereas before I just did lots of damage and got lots of kills without directly contributing to winning the game.

Now, what it is for you that you need to work on, I'm not sure, but looking for it is the only way you're getting out. Wanton raving and cursing on the forums isn't helping anyone.

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Volt Cruelerz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=0004000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2015-03-03T23:18:44.362+0000)

Look, I'm not gonna deny you'll have bad games, but until you take responsibility for staying down there, you're going to stay down there.

When I was in bronze, I did have to put up with feeders and afks. I even won lane the vast majority of the time. I'd come out of laning phase as (old) Xerath being like 4/0/0 and ahead in cs most games. I blamed my team for losses until I got better at roaming and objectives. Now I still win lane and now I can actually carry the game whereas before I just did lots of damage and got lots of kills without directly contributing to winning the game.

Now, what it is for you that you need to work on, I'm not sure, but looking for it is the only way you're getting out. Wanton raving and cursing on the forums isn't helping anyone.

way way way over your head please refrain from posting any further

WarlockLawMar 4, 20151 votes

Plays support, doesn't build sightstone, winders why he lost

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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Plays support, doesn't build sightstone, winders why he lost

another classic example of some one who doesn't know how to read or is stoned out of his mind

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Volt Cruelerz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-03-01T12:26:36.853+0000)

The fact of the matter is, if you keep getting matched with people that suck, that means your overall contribution to win rate is no better than them.

yes 2 turrts and 30%-60% contribution to kills where my teams was not wreked is low to no contribution totally did nothing for my team definitely didnt get deaths from initiating for them and eating 3 ults to the face with feeders like shitco you totally so** did not** even look at the game

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=zane+yalgir http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/48779307#profile

funny thing is i always have way more assists then kills and my deaths are from eating an entire teams worth of ults to the face so that my team who almsot never uses theirs right has theirs and wins the team fights less they herp derp

morons like you are the ones i flame for your none stop shit in-game decisions

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=whzT4hBs,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2015-03-04T03:26:45.829+0000)

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/48779307#profile

funny thing is i always have way more assists then kills >

clarification im talking about the static page on lolking i will never have more kills then assists cause of the sheer amount of leeching in this game

DinitrophenolMar 2, 20151 votes

so you throw games late, i dont understand your question. to answer the question, yes you are where you belong. towers / dragons / even a baron... still close the game out, and top lane tryn with smite vs you as xin, you have to know that trynd will outscale you hardcore the later the game goes on. since it was a 55 min game, thats late game so gold doesnt even matter too much once everyone is full built.

things you could of done, would be go a lil more tankier, you have TF / PD / Bork which is a little excessive, if you wanna go dmg, cut out the TF and just get IE, your SV prolly should of went BV or even mogs imo, lack of boots too, tabi would of been nice to counter the tryn and adc a lil.

pretty much a decent rule of thumb for tankier top laners is to just get 1 dmg item then go tanky, there are exceptions but its a basic rule at least i use for myself,

did you pick xin into trynd, or did you just blind pick xin? going into a tryndamere, me personally would recommend going pantheon or hiemer, could go teemo or jax but me personally i dont play those 2 that often anymore.

hiemer is great, cuz the turrets are op, and pantheon is just a typical lane bully and also brings his ulti, so keeping ignite + map pressure strong.

but yes, you guys did well most the game from what the stats say, but you got outscaled and are unable to end a game, which is something you and others will need to learn to improve your ranking.

(not a god player, but do consider myself a solid plat iii player)

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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so you throw games late, i dont understand your question. to answer the question, yes you are where you belong. towers / dragons / even a baron... still close the game out, and top lane tryn with smite vs you as xin, you have to know that trynd will outscale you hardcore the later the game goes on. since it was a 55 min game, thats late game so gold doesnt even matter too much once everyone is full built.

things you could of done, would be go a lil more tankier, you have TF / PD / Bork which is a little excessive, if you wanna go dmg, cut out the TF and just get IE, your SV prolly should of went BV or even mogs imo, lack of boots too, tabi would of been nice to counter the tryn and adc a lil.

pretty much a decent rule of thumb for tankier top laners is to just get 1 dmg item then go tanky, there are exceptions but its a basic rule at least i use for myself,

did you pick xin into trynd, or did you just blind pick xin? going into a tryndamere, me personally would recommend going pantheon or hiemer, could go teemo or jax but me personally i dont play those 2 that often anymore.

hiemer is great, cuz the turrets are op, and pantheon is just a typical lane bully and also brings his ulti, so keeping ignite + map pressure strong.

but yes, you guys did well most the game from what the stats say, but you got outscaled and are unable to end a game, which is something you and others will need to learn to improve your ranking.

(not a god player, but do consider myself a solid plat iii player)

i jsut took some time to read this are you perhaps not seeing trand jnugle

xin me top?

could you at elast look at the game for soem odd reason jinx was top and a 1v1 level xin vs jin jinx with crit as runes wins becuase she has a 100 damage poke there was nothing i could do and worst i told my amumu jnugle ima need help xin was a horrbile pick for arly game do you not know how easy a xin amumu q would a wrecked that jinx? she couldn't burst me but she easily used her rocket q and forced me to back and my team fed hard if i cant cs and amumu threw our chance out the window with that feeding bot and mid we had what do we do?

only acceptable riot answer is pray your team ffs and pray you team next game isnt shit trash. THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER

TheJuzzoMar 3, 20151 votes

Think of it like this bro.

If you had 13 kills, would you feel fed?

Please don't give the other team 13 kills.

BastionKrossMar 3, 20151 votes

Some games aren't winnable. Maybe there's an AFK, or a troll, or someone is (god forbid) trying out a champion for the first time in ranked. Those games you just have to accept the loss that accompanies them. Cold Riot be doing more to help that situation? Probably.

However, most games are winnable if you carry. And by carry, I don't just mean running around getting lots of kills (although that doesn't hurt). It means that you have good decision making and try to be a shot caller for the team. Win a teamfight? Good, now go grab a tower or dragon or baron or at least the enemy blue buff before going back to base. Getting the kills is fine, but taking those objectives while the enemy team is dead is what will win you the game. If someone on your team is split pushing and refuses to group for a teamfight, try to put as much pressure on the map elsewhere to give him the best chance to take towers. Put some wards down and when you see an opponent walking through them, say something or ping. Little things like that can have a huge effect.

Remember not to be bossy or critical of your teammates while you're carrying. Don't tell your top laner that he's an idiot for building a item 3050 on Malphite . Don't call your mid laner horrible names because he fed. Don't rage at the team when they didn't follow your pings and something bad happened. A large part of carrying a team is keeping a level head and having patience with the strangers you're working with.

Colgate GatorMar 3, 20151 votes

Going by your logic, how do you justify the games where you went 1/7? Don't cherrypick just what you want to show.

cuddlykitten4Mar 3, 20151 votes

I didn't even read past the title of this thread and I already know exactly what the poster said, and exactly what the comments will be contrived of. Predictable FTW

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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I didn't even read past the title of this thread and I already know exactly what the poster said, and exactly what the comments will be contrived of. Predictable FTW

i should have taken a better look before responding to you after this classless post circle jerk else where

SmokingPuffinMar 3, 20151 votes

You died 13 times.

Stop that.

Come back when you're averaging 4 deaths a game with reasonable kill participation and CS.

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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You died 13 times.

Stop that.

Come back when you're averaging 4 deaths a game with reasonable kill participation and CS.

when the jungler is feeidng when cait refuses to group that makes its a 3+1feeder vs 5 every team fight 20/13 as teh only tank in a 3v5 is very reasonable and if i was an lcs player this post would never of been made. come back when your not stoned out for your mind

SmokingPuffinMar 4, 20151 votes

when the jungler is feeidng when cait refuses to group that makes its a 3+1feeder vs 5 every team fight

You should not engage that fight, and you definitely shouldn't get caught. Bleed objectives until Cait gets to the group. If she never does and the nexus blows up, so be it. Taking a bad fight just makes a bad situation worse.

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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You should not engage that fight, and you definitely shouldn't get caught. Bleed objectives until Cait gets to the group. If she never does and the nexus blows up, so be it. Taking a bad fight just makes a bad situation worse.

and some one still isnt reading anything cait and bltiz went to an inhibitor on an ace i went to the nexus turrets cuase we already had a inhibtor down

adc + xin + blitz ace yet xin was only able to solo one tower and fell short two aa of number two

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746595704/211846831?tab=overview if you must comment at least look at the game first. of course just talking to talk and being an idiot works too

swap to building kills look at blue nexus turret and then look at the time line.... yoll see cait inhibitor and xin nexus turret at the same time..... no we ddi not need that inhibitor its hard to see cause the death rtimer is replaced after each respawn shoco got the mid one at the 31 min mark

SmokingPuffinMar 4, 20151 votes

The point I was making is simple. You're told me there was a teamfight where your adc wasn't there. There should never, ever, ever be a fight under those circumstances. Why did you fight?

When I look at the game, my conclusion remains the same - you couldn't carry because you spent too much of your time dead. In particular, it looks like y'all threw pretty hard at the 16 minute mark, again at 19, and you have what look to be solo deaths at 21, 29, and 42 minutes. Stats aren't replays, so I can't confirm, but I want you to think hard about every death and see how you can prevent it. It is hard to overstate the value of being alive more.

Much of this is your build. You need way more health for that level of resistance. You aren't going to get value from that Thornmail with so little health behind it. Your build wants to look more like this one -- tons of health with a bit of resistance is way more effective than tons of resistance with a bit of health.

Also, your intermediate buys are bad. Especially your buy at 13 minutes is a problem. That is a ton of random stuff that doesn't build into the same big item, and as a result you don't finish your first big item until 19 minutes. You also would be much better served, given that you've already bought the Warden's, to finish it into Randuin's rather than build Thornmail. Your midgame item timings are all late by 5-10 minutes, and just fixing that will result in you being way stronger in fights.

I think this game could easily have been a 25 minute stomp with you being an immortal juggernaut, just by changing buy order.

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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The point I was making is simple. You're told me there was a teamfight where your adc wasn't there. There should never, ever, ever be a fight under those circumstances. Why did you fight?

When I look at the game, my conclusion remains the same - you couldn't carry because you spent too much of your time dead. In particular, it looks like y'all threw pretty hard at the 16 minute mark, again at 19, and you have what look to be solo deaths at 21, 29, and 42 minutes. Stats aren't replays, so I can't confirm, but I want you to think hard about every death and see how you can prevent it. It is hard to overstate the value of being alive more.

Much of this is your build. You need way more health for that level of resistance. You aren't going to get value from that Thornmail with so little health behind it. Your build wants to look more like this one -- tons of health with a bit of resistance is way more effective than tons of resistance with a bit of health.

Also, your intermediate buys are bad. Especially your buy at 13 minutes is a problem. That is a ton of random stuff that doesn't build into the same big item, and as a result you don't finish your first big item until 19 minutes. You also would be much better served, given that you've already bought the Warden's, to finish it into Randuin's rather than build Thornmail. Your midgame item timings are all late by 5-10 minutes, and just fixing that will result in you being way stronger in fights.

I think this game could easily have been a 25 minute stomp with you being an immortal juggernaut, just by changing buy order.

in bronze theres none stop im adc i refuse to team fight this circle jerks gone on enough

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1749535097/211846831?tab=overview

notic how i did the best fiora clearly lost but you know im j4 i dont need blue green smite item or thorn mail you knwo that hting that coutners firoa and jinx

im leo supp i dont need a warding stone o thorn mail well agian shitty team failed me your not bronze atm you dont understand its way over your head there is nothing more i can improve on when i keep getting this shit

SmokingPuffinMar 4, 20151 votes

in bronze theres none stop im adc i refuse to team fight this circle jerks gone on enough

You do yourself no favors by taking a bad fight. You'll be amazed at how far never being the one to make the terrible play will carry you. At least to gold, I'd wager.

there is nothing more i can improve on when i keep getting this shit

The sooner you get this out of your head, the sooner you get out of bronze.

AnomanderMar 4, 20151 votes

I keep trying to come up with a way to put it that I would not sound like a dick but I can't. However doesn't change the fact that you are where you belong.....

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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I keep trying to come up with a way to put it that I would not sound like a dick but I can't. However doesn't change the fact that you are where you belong.....

no im not and you sound like a dick becuase i gave you an example of my average shit team i regularly get and you keep saying all i can do is improve..\bad news for people like you riots nerf bats more like a nerf nuke every thing you remember has changed for the worst they have gone out of there way to make it near impossible to 1v5 and when you've split pushed pulled2 sometimes 3 guys to you and you team still cant win a fight not only is your split shut down but your team literally lost you the match

1 for 2 and/or 3 is a good trade and if i try hard enough which im willing to sometimes its a free 2 or 3 kills because those 2 or three went top or bot to stop me and i can aggro well enough to get out alive while my team handles their fight with out those two or three going mid

problem is they dont do anything or lose that fight becuase there so shitty and becuase they fail so epicly its a why bother trying most matches when the lose is as clear as day

AnomanderMar 4, 20151 votes

OK fine lets talk about your overall stats not just 1 game. Average 1.55:1 KDA (Contribution for Kill 41%) This is your stats for this season... Your not even involved in 50% of your teams kills over all. Your kda is 7.6 / 9.2 / 6.6 averaged over all your games. You have average 9+ deaths a game.

Based on your game history it seems like you trade a lot of kills which means sure you might be a little ahead but your also feeding the enemy team. And you seem to average 6 or so wards placed per game.

Now lets compare it to mine which I freely admit I am where I belong and that is silver 5.

6.1 / 7.3 / 12.2 Average 2.50:1 KDA (Contribution for Kill 51%)

So starting off I average less deaths and a better KDA. I am also involved in 10% more of the team kills then you. I ward almost 2X more then you and I know I should be warding 10000000X more then I am. It is my major weak spot. You are playing mostly carries while I play mostly tanks and front line supports, Which means I should be dying more then you.

So yes your bad and you are where you belong. However so am I.

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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OK fine lets talk about your overall stats not just 1 game. Average 1.55:1 KDA (Contribution for Kill 41%) This is your stats for this season... Your not even involved in 50% of your teams kills over all. Your kda is 7.6 / 9.2 / 6.6 averaged over all your games. You have average 9+ deaths a game.

Based on your game history it seems like you trade a lot of kills which means sure you might be a little ahead but your also feeding the enemy team. And you seem to average 6 or so wards placed per game.

Now lets compare it to mine which I freely admit I am where I belong and that is silver 5.

6.1 / 7.3 / 12.2 Average 2.50:1 KDA (Contribution for Kill 51%)

So starting off I average less deaths and a better KDA. I am also involved in 10% more of the team kills then you. I ward almost 2X more then you and I know I should be warding 10000000X more then I am. It is my major weak spot. You are playing mostly carries while I play mostly tanks and front line supports, Which means I should be dying more then you.

So yes your bad and you are where you belong. However so am I.

-_-

Your kda is 7.6 / 9.2 / 6.6 averaged over all your games. (Contribution for Kill 41%)

what is it with lol palyers and their inablity to read english

Match average for past 20 games 20G 9W 11L 45% 7.6 / 9.2 / 6.6 151 / 183 / 132 Average 1.55:1 KDA (Contribution for Kill 41%)

All ranked games 125W 108L (Win Ratio 54%)

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=zane+yalgir

please please please shut you stupid bitch ass up ive had nothing but trolls since 2/27 when they magically disappeared not a joke very serious when i say like magic.

-_-

below like the quote above is what you said - the above is a copy past of what the site actually says

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OK fine lets talk about your overall stats not just 1 game. Average 1.55:1 KDA (Contribution for Kill 41%) This is your stats for this season... Your not even involved in 50% of your teams kills over all. Your kda is 7.6 / 9.2 / 6.6 averaged over all your games. You have average 9+ deaths a game.

-_- any one see the where is waldo? i kinda made it bold so even this idiot would see it Jesus this is why i flame people like you. you are not paying attention and you wonder why there is a disconnect

Rundus1Mar 4, 20151 votes

No disrespect intended Zane Yalgir, but the Anomander has a point with some of those builds you got on their. I completely understand the afk problem, and I don't like ranked much because of how often people troll or afk, but I gotta say one thing: Essence reaver on Sion? If you got mana issues get a frozen heart or somethin and if it's health and damage you wanted a Hydra's could've dont the trick, but essence reaver just seems like a bad call. I was in silver, so i don't have much room to talk myself as far as ranked goes, but improving your builds for champs you may not have down yet is always a good place to start. Also, I hope they add more penalties for afks and trolls in ranked (I really do sympathize with you there).

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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No disrespect intended Zane Yalgir, but the Anomander has a point with some of those builds you got on their. I completely understand the afk problem, and I don't like ranked much because of how often people troll or afk, but I gotta say one thing: Essence reaver on Sion? If you got mana issues get a frozen heart or somethin and if it's health and damage you wanted a Hydra's could've dont the trick, but essence reaver just seems like a bad call. I was in silver, so i don't have much room to talk myself as far as ranked goes, but improving your builds for champs you may not have down yet is always a good place to start. Also, I hope they add more penalties for afks and trolls in ranked (I really do sympathize with you there).

i know there's alot of text walls but if you read i know i said somewhere that i was purposely trolling a shit team with a horrible attiude

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746427807/211846831?tab=overview this torll build was still strong enough to force two sometimes three to me and we won because it left the bulk of my team you know 4 people who had an equal hatred for me to do as they please for the larger part

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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no im not and you sound like a dick becuase i gave you an example of my average shit team i regularly get and you keep saying all i can do is improve..\bad news for people like you riots nerf bats more like a nerf nuke every thing you remember has changed for the worst they have gone out of there way to make it near impossible to 1v5 and when you've split pushed pulled2 sometimes 3 guys to you and you team still cant win a fight not only is your split shut down but your team literally lost you the match

1 for 2 and/or 3 is a good trade and if i try hard enough which im willing to sometimes its a free 2 or 3 kills because those 2 or three went top or bot to stop me and i can aggro well enough to get out alive while my team handles their fight with out those two or three going mid

problem is they dont do anything or lose that fight becuase there so shitty and becuase they fail so epicly its a why bother trying most matches when the lose is as clear as day

clarification i try not to split less a 5v5 is slowly losing it for us

FooDangMar 4, 20151 votes

Don't get mad when people tell you that you belong where you are at...because u probably are...

Crit chance runes on Xin? 200cs @ 46 minutes? Why is this guy not at least gold yet?...Rito fix your ranking system...

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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Don't get mad when people tell you that you belong where you are at...because u probably are...

Crit chance runes on Xin? 200cs @ 46 minutes? Why is this guy not at least gold yet?...Rito fix your ranking system...

200cs @ 46 minutes?

205 cs on shoco you know the feeder 137 lane 68 jngle minion and it was a 3v5 most of the time....

Crit chance runes on Xin?

personal preference helps if you can jump straight to a item 3082 item 3211 if you need to roam and lift the others up

if your going to make comments at least read everything this post in the first place was about first why i lost this game and second how riot justifies the bs where you belong comment

we lsot at the 35 min mark when blitz and cait went to the inhiboter while i went to the nexus on a ace fell short of the second turret soloed i dont play on a bronze level sorry not when i can do this well in a 3v5 with one feeders and an adc that refuses to work with the team

SleepyLionCubMar 4, 20151 votes

If you lose 50% of your games, you are equally good to others in your division. You have to win much more than 50% before you rank up. And that's a good thing.

zane yalgirMar 4, 20151 votes

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If you lose 50% of your games, you are equally good to others in your division. You have to win much more than 50% before you rank up. And that's a good thing.

if im averaging 1-2 feeders trolls afks ever fucking gmae in that 50% lose i am not in my elo or perhaps you think a 4v5 and or 5v5 with 1-2 feeders is fair? no its not feeders mean some one is fed on the enemy and 4v5 means some one is a player down that means my 50-50 is more like 60-40 or 70-30 if every game was equal meaning no afks 1 feeders who stops feeding at most

when some one complains about a feeder it means they woudlnt stop dying they might as well be afk that's what complaining about a feeder means

some one who feeds laning but is helpful mid and late game is a good player who had a bad game im not talking about them

Vicarious117Mar 4, 20151 votes

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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1746595704/211846831?tab=overview this is about every game of ranked i play 2 guess as to why we lost

Well honestly the only thing I can actually say for sure based on just your scores and gold flow alone is that neither team ever capitalized on advantages and pushed for objectives after teamfights therefore the game went on long enough for those scores to reach that point.

So basically this looks like an average bronze game to me.

That being said, I don't think the phrase "you are where you belong" is accurate in the least when used broadly. I know this cause I have a friend who was placed into gold even though he fed 9 out of his 10 placement matches, and he was silver last season! I on a constant basis beat him in lane 1v1 and when on the other team when we play with friends just by moving around the map more efficiently. So is he where he belongs? ABSOLUTELY NOT! At the same time I'm stuck in silver, climbing out once again but it's slow as usual, but on both of my 3s teams with 2 other plat players we constantly play against diamond teams and have even been forced to play against 2 master tier teams and a challenger tier team once. They do that cause we consistently beat diamond ranked teams and players, is that something a silver player should be able to repeatedly do? No, so am I where I belong? Definitely not.

But again, I am currently climbing up once again cause placements as usual screwed me over (went 5-5 with an average kda of 9/5/10 against and with plats and diamonds in 8 out of my 10 games, then got deranked 4 ranks......), so eventually I will get to where I belong, it's not like I'm stuck at the same rank perpetually. But that's why that phrase is useless, cause there are those of us in lower elos who repeatedly beat high elo players when on our own teams and not a bunch of randoms but are still climbing solo Q.

So your point you're trying to make isn't really accurate, but I still do agree with your sentiment.

Ada WongMar 4, 20151 votes

I will tell you my opinion on why (Your Team) Lost the game, and it happens many times to me with players who get toxic in chat.

1.) By Default the enemy team should win, (Not You) unless they are bad because they have a Lissandra who can take people out of a fight + Zhonyas meaning one person on your team for 1.5 seconds can't do anything in a group fight, They have Braum and RekSai who are way better in a group fight situation.

2.) Your team should lose especially if you do not win early because you have Shaco which means your group fights are pretty much a 4v5 already, then on top of that you have Blitzcrank which late game becomes a useless support unless he can pull out the enemy ADC or AP Carry in a team fight which if they are good isn't going to happen, and by default you should lose the group fights because of it being a 3v5.

Now I don't play XinZhao enough to have an opinion on him as a champion, but in general if Your support, and jungle had of run something better like Sejuani Zyra Xerath and if multiple players on your team took summoner 3 for tryndamere + their ADC late game, then you could have had a chance, of course there are other things that could have been done for top lane as well perhaps top Sejuani Jungle would give your team a huge engage advantage if you strike first by Sejuani who ults enemy team a who lands his combo on their ADC/ AP Carry while they are still frozen, and by then it should be a 5v3, however the problem with running comps like this is often there are too many people who are too chicken to understand what needs to be done, even if your Jungler is good your Brand player would be too slow at making a play therefore it would not go well, and that is where playing a team games comes into understand what you need to do.

But at the same time I understand where you come from I personally get too many games with unskilled players who can't even select a proper team build in champion select, so I say in champion select we likely lose the game over 90% of the time I am right we do lose the game because of not having proper builds unless the enemy team is bad at which point I get fed and do a lot usually.