Darius has a 32% banrate
Why has he gotten nothing but buffs in 2 years? He doesn't "fall off" anymore, he just gets to win every melee lane for free by existing. Darius has always won lane for free but now he's just overpowered.
Why has he gotten nothing but buffs in 2 years? He doesn't "fall off" anymore, he just gets to win every melee lane for free by existing. Darius has always won lane for free but now he's just overpowered.
Yeah Darius is a problem even to ranged champs now, since he's literally impossible to kite. He can build
run at you at 670 ms and do assassin level of damage.
But yeah "just cc him" "learn to kite"
As much as I love to defend the immobile bruiser boys, I can't just ignore stats like that.
I personally consider Darius the premier juggernaut with the definition of a low reliability, high impact attack (Q) that makes or breaks his trades/fights and is heavily gated by mobility as he should be. My only problem ever with him has been his historic and current over-the-top bullying of certain immobile melee champions. While yes those are the types of champions he's supposed to counter, he usually does it in a way that is basically unplayable for the opposing laner.
But that shouldn't be an issue because let's be honest, who plays immobile melee champions top anymore (besides me)?
However, obviously something is wrong if he has that high a banrate and unlike Riven players, we shouldn't be sitting here pretending it's ok.
So after looking at his stats, this is definitely not just a "western phenomenon" given not only is his banrate is absurd NA, EUW and EUNE but KR as well.
This definitely deserves some looking into.
As someone who bans Darius 50% of the time, I don't want him nerfed. What I do want is for him to be less overbearing against melee with no mobility and given the ability to do something against ranged (even if it's just survive).
How I love the boards' hypocrisy. "Darius has a 32% banrate" gets downvoted immediately, yet banrate is somehow the only justification needed to call for Pyke nerfs...?
http://www.op.gg/champion/darius/statistics/top I mean he doesn't have that high of a winrate. He's just annoying to play against.
All he needs is
Phage and it becomes impossible to avoid him. Darius never loses lane.
8.02% pickrate 50.2% winrate in plat+ please nerf
Nah you can beat him fairly well with:

Reading the comments got me to answer here
Immobile champs builds movespeed and gets unkiteable, it's not like every single champ in the game except some adc like Kai'sa has slows or CCs, and almost everyone has a dash.
Ofc, if you are all alone by yourself with no self peel and Ghost Darius runs at you, you die as you deserve. If you're with your team though I highly doubt no one will throw his shit at Darius running at them, and he's not the quickest to dodge, and even if he manages to dodge you force him to change paths and slow him anyway. If Darius Ghost Flashes on your ass in a teamfight and your carries don't have F, he deserved to destroy them because it's a calculated play. And even still, he will most likely build his stacks first and then flash, he's a good juggernaut that needs time to rack up his burst potential and has telegraphed abilities, even in lane.
I've beaten Darius countless times with
, another telegraphed juggernaut, and as a Darius player it's a real pain to play against the likes of
(more of a skill matchup)
.
I get it, he's really strong in lane, but at the same time he's easy to gank. Ofc if your jgl decides to gank when he has 5 stacks on the toplaner, it won't end well for both of you, but it is to be expected. However if you manage not to get him to 5 stacks it's an easy fight, and putting him behind means you basically made him useless.
"Yeah but ganks shouldn't be the solution", then learn the champion. I myself know all his windups and ranges, hence I can manage his trades and know what he'll try to do next, I can't recall anytime I lost in lane against
where I had my other main
.
He ofc is annoying to deal with, but there are annoying treats/waya of playing against him too, he's nowhere near impossible to beat.
I don't think darius is strong i also havent seen him win vs ranged champion idk maybe its Just low Elo thing.
Darius isn't overpowered. He just gets banned very often because you have to know what you're doing if you're a meele champion vs him, otherwise you will just get stomped and right after he stomps your team. I don't even see him that often.
baby's first top laner
Where excactly did you find these stats? At Iron/Bronze/Silver even Garen has and always had a high pickrate/banrate so yeah, just talking about %s without anything more should belong to rant
Why has he gotten nothing but buffs in 2 years? He doesn't "fall off" anymore, he just gets to win every melee lane for free by existing. Darius has always won lane for free but now he's just overpowered.
False. Though Darius is a strong melee champion, he is like one of the weakest top laners in the game. There are plenty of more op and broken laners he needs to deal with and since he is like one of the few who is immobile, his damage needs to suffice. Renketon, tryndamere, illoai, Irelia, et all stronger than him. If Darius doesn’t get ahead he is almost always behind.
Darius never did fall off lol. He's also completely braindead and overpowered, so makes sense to ban him.
Even if Darius is balanced numerically, he is extremely frustrating to play against because one mis-step means you die. Even in losing match-ups darius can easily win if the opponent makes one wrong move and gets pulled. Then in his winning match-ups there is no counterplay. A good example is most tanks in the game. Sion V Darius. Darius takes ghost in the match-up and if sion goes in melee to farm he dies, flat out. He has no way to avoid the E in melee range, no mobility to get away and darius does way too much early damage compares to early defensive stats. Their are very few other champions in the top lane where literally clicking the wrong pixel means you die for free.
He is also a wish for more wishes champion. His E gurantees his W and his W gurantees his Q meaning if you get hit with one ability unless you have crazy mobility which is rare in top lane, your getting hit with all three of his abilities. I think if they are going to keep his pull, his W needs to not slow OR if they want to keep his E and his W in current state, they need to make the bleed a regular dont and not stack. The synergy is way to strong, there is no reason being pulled once can basically shut you out of the game, especially in a melee lane. Blitzcrank is acceptable because it's a range lane and the enemy support usually has tools to portect the adc as well, IE there is counterplay. In top, avoiding his pull is praying pathing doesn't screw you or that you have more range than him. Otherwise, you are inevitably going to get grabbed in one of his 1000 attempts. It's just odds.