PSA: Don't start crying if I begin killing under tower minions when you aren't there.

Asudurga·Oct 1, 2016·49 votes·1,702 views

Would you rather I let this farm go to waste while you're far away?

31 Comments

bad manner kidOct 1, 20164 votes

Service announcement to you is that it can and can't be the correct play.

If someones roaming because their lane is pushed and you go push it again you're basically helping the enemy team gank them / ruining any chance they have to kill laner.

If someone is legitimately neglecting their lane and your interference won't push it, or you force it to reset, there should be no complaints.

It's annoying to hear these arguments because all the facts of the game state are missing. It hurts me to watch junglers gank my lane and not kill 3-4 minions with me to reset the lane. It also hurts me when a jungler says "I'm taking these because you aren't" as I'm planning to return to lane before it gets to tower. It just makes it look like your on tilt or mad at the laner.

IPromiseTomorrowOct 1, 20162 votes

As a midlane main I don't really get a huge advantage for freezing 1 wave. To me it's not something to argue about. So I don't see the problem with pushing one wave. Also I believe a laner is supposed to deal with their own lane being pushed. I just go back to freezing when it is, no harm for me.

Can't say every mid laner agrees with me, but I believe my jungler is doing ok when clearing minions under tower.

RipikouOct 1, 20161 votes

You push a wave in while they're otw back and you think they should deal with the gank? O_o cool mid lane.

IPromiseTomorrowOct 2, 20161 votes

Well as my philosophy is (almost) everything is my responsibility. So I don't care about getting ganked when I'm a midlaner. When I'm the jungler though I take it into account. So when I push in the wave I'm thinking-> "Oh look my midlaner is pushing in. Because I pushed in his lane. Time to come in for the counter gank. " That's how I play when I'm really focused.

SSJTribeOct 1, 20168 votes

if the minion was going to die to the tower anyway, I don't see a situation where it's not ok to last hit it. No one is pushing anything, just last hitting before the tower does it anyway.

dominusxOct 1, 20164 votes

if someone spamms me ping when i get minnions that they have no way to reach unless they have tp imma shove the next three waves and let them suck a D

Sorakas PantheonOct 2, 20162 votes

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if someone spamms me ping when i get minnions that they have no way to reach unless they have tp imma shove the next three waves and let them suck a D

That is not optimal and more than likely will tilt your laner thus having a high chance of leading to a loss

dominusxOct 2, 20161 votes

good that's what i wan't

Sorakas PantheonOct 6, 20161 votes

Why? What satisfaction do you get from doing it?

dominusxOct 6, 20161 votes

satisfaction of a trash laner losing the game and getting pissed off.

Sorakas PantheonOct 7, 20161 votes

Intentionally hurting those around you causing them to have negative emotions that's satisfying to you?

Just because they are not that good at the game and or annoy you with pings

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if someone spamms me ping when i get minnions that they have no way to reach unless they have tp imma shove the next three waves and let them suck a D

satisfaction of a trash laner losing the game and getting pissed off.

You know being Toxic like that to them is not going to help them improve at the game nor will it teach them anything other than how to be Toxic your comment just shows how bad of a Team Player and Teammate you are and that you will just throw a game just because you got annoyed

You do not Deserve to play League nor any Team game as according to the tone of your words you do not plain on stopping being Toxic.

dominusxOct 7, 20161 votes

boo hoo. was a teamplayer since late season 4 not anymore i get nothing out of it so it doesnt matter only reason imma become a teamplayer again is if i climb in diamond 2-1 again but i doubt it since i just play off roles for the last month.Positivity doesnt win games skill/macro does

Sorakas PantheonOct 9, 20161 votes

You know being positive is just as important as Skill and Macro management because remember Humans are creatures with fragile minds that are prone to tilt easy unless trained, and what do people do when they tilt they tend to give up and start not thinking straight which is why people try to tilt their opponents by spamming Mastery emotes, worlds team emotes, laughs and the Dances emote when they get a kill or picking a considered OP champion and camping a lane then spamming the emotes these are very good strategies but are often considered BM (Bad Manners) though BMing is not a reportable offence it is still kinda dickish to do but has a very high chance of winning by doing it.

Mind games without typing is one of the best ways to beat your opponent Mostly if you have a Mastery 7 emote on a champion then spam that every time you get a kill works best when you start spamming when you are like fed because they don't think highly at all of people with Mastery 7 on a champion so it will tilt them when they start feeding that person with said Mastery 7.

And i have done that a lot with Pantheon mid lane since most of the match ups for mid lane are squishy thus the perfect place for Pantheon but keep the bushes heading towards the river warded since if you are going to spam the Mastery emote they are going to try and camp you, but you will want to kill the squishy first if you are going to fight and if they are both squishes you can 1v2 them and win that trade also after you kill them the first or 2nd time depending on the champ they will start to roam either bot or top to try and get kills because they do not want to deal with Pantheon also Pantheon can use his W on Vel'koz to stop his ult not a lot of people know that nor use it to their advantage since Vel is squishy.

ABSINTHEgedOct 1, 20164 votes

Oh I don't mind if you last hit.

I mind when I'm 3/4ths of the way down the lane and you start to AOE an entire minion wave down.

That's when I'll take issue. :p

Tyrone LannisterOct 1, 20163 votes

You could try freezing it before it hits the tower. If its already on turret, go ahead and get that cs

AsudurgaOct 1, 20163 votes

That was the purpose of the post, under tower minions dying to it.

archseraph1mOct 2, 20161 votes

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That was the purpose of the post, under tower minions dying to it.

if i died to a gank you only come up to help ward and gank them you dont come top to farm while im walking back

EchoZeeroOct 2, 20163 votes

As a jungler main, I usually do it when laner has been killed and waiting to respawn and minions are going to be wasted. If the laner pings me I tell him to STFU.

archseraph1mOct 2, 20161 votes

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As a jungler main, I usually do it when laner has been killed and waiting to respawn and minions are going to be wasted. If the laner pings me I tell him to STFU.

then the game is over because i have a simple formula: I help the team as often as i got help so if for example they gank me i die and you come top to farm that counts as them getting help from the enemy team and you so thats 2 times. if you never gank after that that is 0 so

0-2 = -2

i am in -2 team fights for the whole game hope you liked the farm

Darkslayer85Oct 3, 20161 votes

2-0=2

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

archseraph1mOct 3, 20161 votes

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2-0=2

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

lol sorry i started with a -2 -0 but it made more sense if i had the numbers positive and didnt reverse them back good catch thanks

EchoZeeroOct 3, 20161 votes

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then the game is over because i have a simple formula: I help the team as often as i got help so if for example they gank me i die and you come top to farm that counts as them getting help from the enemy team and you so thats 2 times. if you never gank after that that is 0 so

0-2 = -2

i am in -2 team fights for the whole game hope you liked the farm

Wait I never said I didn't gank I was saying I would farm the creep if it's dying under tower and the laner is no there or on a respawn timer. WTF did you read?

Sexy Jack RabbitOct 1, 20162 votes

I'm confused as to whether is referring to Supports or Jungles?

LitAFOct 1, 20163 votes

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I'm confused as to whether is referring to Supports or Jungles?

Probably to roaming mid laners

Sorakas PantheonOct 2, 20161 votes

Probably both

Covert Ops GnarOct 1, 20162 votes

If you come in and clear the entire wave instead of last hitting the minions that are being targeted by tower, I get to complain because you're being stupid.

SanKakUOct 2, 20161 votes

I don't think it's as easy or as time-efficient to refuse to use abilities to clear the wave as you seem to think. If they can clean up all those minions, that's great, the support most likely won't have a chance to kill all the minions under the tower. They'd be lucky to get 1 or 2. If the mid/jungle can take them all, more power to them. It may also mean more healing you if your support doesn't have to use their teal-colored gold income item to keep the minions off the tower while the other guy is in lane.

DicersonOct 2, 20162 votes

If I am playing Nasus, do not, under any circumstances, push that lane. Let that farm go to waste because it will probably slightly delay my waves advance, making it easier for me to stack my all-important Q (Because it it all-important, if you dont get 300 stacks by 20 and then an additional 300 every 10 minutes you will never be able to accomplish anything as nasus because the ENTIRETY of his significant damage is in that Q) without getting caught out by the enemy jungler because I am Nasus and am required to get as many stacks as I can, and your avent pushing forced me to hit the enemy tower 30 seconds before I should've, costing me 18 stacks and a death. Just so you can clean up the enemy laner's pathetic excuse for a health bar and do it again.

Long story short: If I am nasus, Fuck you.

Papa SlothyOct 2, 20161 votes

but.....If I can't have it NOBODY CAN

Darkslayer85Oct 3, 20161 votes

They can last-hit, but they shouldn't push the wave.

Kitty ClarissaOct 2, 2016

i mean it depends as long as the minnons waves are not under tower, im ok it depends if i back because im low and you happen to be here you can shove the wave so i can come back to the wave crashing on me , if im gettin close by, you can push the wave but keep it midway so i wont be so pushed up if you gank and it works out, you can help push the wave under tower so i can back on a better note .

just my opinion