With all due respect, she's so weak right now, I don't even play her, but when I fight her, I can walk all over her no matter who I'm playing, and it's depressing, since you remember how strong she used to be and now you look at her...
It's sad, and something should be done to fix this. Don't break her though... Just do something
Ben Sharpio2 votesShe's not weak. She's balanced.
The Aqualious2 votesEver since they removed the sustain I ENJOY being her mark, I may not play her, and maybe the players I've fought against are just idiots now...
But it's not a challenge, just feels like a Tyler1... Free gold free exp
Wukong X Ahri1 votesThis.
She's still very good in the right hands. She just doesn't auto win 1v1 duals any more you actually have to try now.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votes@Riot show love to Kindred
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I believe I will.
Jokes aside, I think their main issues are their early and mid game, and I think Riot hit their early a little too hard.
The Aqualious2 votesYeah, once they removed her sustain, she's just gone down hill, their must have been a better way of nerfing her or fixing the problem
ThePikol1 votesThat's right. Kindred was my main jungler and still is one of my most played champ with mastery 5. But for some time now even when I have 8 stacks and 4 items I can't 1 vs 1 anyone. Like wtf
The Aqualious1 votesThat's so stupid
ThePikol1 votesWhat you mean?
The Aqualious1 votesThe 1v1 trouble you're having with her
ThePikol1 votesBut you said it yourself.
when I fight her, I can walk all over her no matter who I'm playing, and it's depressing, since you remember how strong she used to be
I'm probably still not experiended enough with Kindred but she really is too weak. She's too slow, low AS and armor. No sustain in jungle and no hard CC
The Aqualious1 votesWhat you were saying was furthering my original point. You're a mastery 5 Kindred, that doesn't mean you are the best granted but I assume you still have some know how and can very well tell how much she's been gutted.
That being said of course, there's always room to grow with whoever you play. So I do suggest you keep working at it if you feel you can grow
ThePikol1 votesI will still play Kindred. I like their design, voice and kit. I just wish for more MS, AS or armor. Or maybe return heal on W and ability to place my R on ally ( it fit them, they are death, they decide when someone dies)
The Aqualious1 votesThat seems fair
Astôlfo1 votes+5 base MS +X base armor -> Return heal but against champions only.
That's what they need. Not more or less or different.
The Aqualious1 votesPretty Balanced looking
Talisid1 votesShe does seem underpowered but carry jungles are pretty difficult to properly balance, so I'm not too sad that she's currently undertuned. 
Wolfram Oxford1 votesShe is strong
Hyperiön1 votesHer Early game is shit, Her late game is insane.
Ideal way to balance a champion.
Another picture is to look at Renekton, His early game is great, his late game not so much.
The Aqualious1 votesShe's more of a Fast or Feast choice though, from expirence, and it feels so easy to deny her that snowball potential
