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Her AAs do bonus damage, too. You absolutely ignore champions have mana regen and with her passive you can't really miss CS, so DR refunds you alot of mana. Every shield helps in early, when the enemy has none. And you just don't need to use W, your Q at level 5 has 40 mana cost, you can Q 8 times on level 5 - mana regen not counted.
Great, let's increase Q mana cost and decrease the cost for combo, sounds balanced, right?
Irrelevant argument.
But if you insist: I play her mid, not bot. Yes, she is a lane bully, but hitting her spells is way harder than Ori's and she has way less survivability (no shield nor MVS buff, her spells force for to root herself when she wants to cast them.
K. If you are dumb enough to try and exchange AA with an Ori, you deserve to eat the damage. Just like if you were to try and do that to a Ziggs or an ADC for the matter.
DR also refunds mana to your mid laner as well. And your mid laner has passive mana regen on top of that. So that's moot. Nerf DR or Lost Chapter if it's such a problem. Early shield doesn't help much, considering that other mids have higher damage. Keep in mind, if she's using her shield, she is burning mana.
8 times is not a lot. Your Zyra also can throw her Q 8 times as well at level 5. With more damage on top of that. That's not including her free plants for damage as well.
If you want to increase her Q's mana cost, her W, E, and R mana cost would need to go down, considering the repositioning factor is huge in her kit. And that causes a lot more problems than just the Q poke.
Zyra is relevant to this, considering you are arguing about Orianna's poke, yet you are playing one of the most aggressive poke mages with just as low mana cost as Ori. Zyra is easy mode in both mid and bot lane. I've played her since her release and it's not hard to hit anything with her spells. Just throw it out within the area and her plants are summoned. Her survivability is her hard CC and her huge zoning. No one zones as hard as Zyra. At least with Ori, you know you just need to stay 825 range away, with the ball as the indicator. Zyra can drop 2 seeds near-instantly, as well as multiple seeds randomly spawning around her, creating an unhealthy laning phase. Considering Ori doesn't have anything except is a decaying slow in her W (unless you count her high cooldown R) for CC.
Again,
negates any poke Ori dishes out with either her AA or her Q. Not that hard.