Vel'Koz Jungle, viable in higher elos? Not trolling.

CaribbeanCask·4/7/2016, 6:40:22 PM·2 votes·772 views

What do you guys think about Vel'Koz jungle? I've had lots of success in lower elos (bronze,silver) and normal games, would it work in higher ones? I've gone legendary multiple times with it. Its a legit question cause he has great clear speeds with easy kiting to stay pretty healthy. He has awesome ganks with a knockup, a hefty slow, and a long range ult that is very hard to escape not to mention all of the above are AOE. People play Aurelion Sol jungle and Fiddles and it seems like he'd be even better than both. Its also hard to invade him with his E/Q combo.. Obviously he is entirely skill shot oriented so he is hard to play as a champion, but if you have good mechanics and can land your skill shots, he seems like he has everything you need to be a solid jungler. Most people's knee jerk reaction is to say it sucks until they actually think about it or see it played.. but i seriously think its a very viable choice if your team comp can accept an AP assassin jungler.

Any actual thoughts on why it wouldn't work compared to other ap assassin jungles?

My normal build is item 1402 item 1333 item 3116 item 3165 item 3157 item 3089 or item 3135 Runes are AP quints, magic pen marks, armor seals, 6 CDR/LVL - 3 MR/LVL glyphs Masteries are 12/18 thunderlords-45%cdr

12 Comments

Live2LetDie4/7/2016, 6:42:46 PM1 votes

I would insta gank him after my first side clear with any jungler and just stay in his jungle. If he doesn't rage quit before 6 minutes then that opponent is just a bad jungler.

So squish, no escapes, poor clears, dies to most junglers easily.

The Deckowner4/7/2016, 6:43:10 PM1 votes

1.early clear is too weak due to how squishy he is 2.gank can be hard because his abilities can be dodged/enemy laner goes all in on u and murders u 3. enemy jg can easily counter jg/invade and kill u due to u having no mobility.

Vanic9984/7/2016, 6:45:12 PM1 votes

Yes! He's VELKOZ jungle does work! I've tried it myself. Here are some videos as proof: Velkoz Jungle

CaribbeanCask4/7/2016, 6:48:42 PM1 votes

ok but he doesnt have poor clears... you are just assuming that possibly? he has better or as good of clears as most assassin junglers.. legit. if you are decent with velkoz, go into a custom game and jungle starting crugs with no leash, you can do a full clear. start W, then go E, kiting properly you take very little dmg. less dmg than rengar which i play a lot.. who also has no escapes and no mobility

CaribbeanCask4/7/2016, 6:52:23 PM1 votes

you can try to insta gank a velkoz thinking hes weak until you get hit with his E and two Ws and have to run away getting nothing out of your invade.... then once he hits lvl 3, youll never get to him if he has decent skill shots with most other junglers. you are knocked up, slowed, and taking tons of dmg for free before you get to him. you would need someone with extreme mobility and you would HAVE to dodge his skill shots in order to successfully invade...

theonlyaustin4/7/2016, 6:52:53 PM1 votes

No. You will get counter jungles and invaded so fast your tentacles will spin

Sariat14/7/2016, 6:54:41 PM1 votes

I don't think so. Vel'koz needs consistant income to make it to lategame, and once you pass the first few clears, jungle camps start to take a serious toll on his health. Add this to the fact that in order to contest objectives with summoner 11 , you have to be very close, and usually right in the middle of the fight, which is a terrible idea for Vel'koz.

Vel'koz also has no mobility, absolutely no sustain whatsoever, and very little dueling potential, which most of the meta junglers bring in tons (Lee, Nid, Kindred,Udyr).For these reasons, he is very vulnerable to early invades and can easily be solo-killed by almost any other jungler.

Vel'koz is all about positioning, and proper positioning requires adequate vision, and vision is very poor in the jungle. He also lacks reliable CC (Amumu, J4, Rammus), and I disagree that he brings good ganks, as all of his CC is relatively short in duration.

Finally, Vel'koz is a utility-poke mage, and that is something that belongs in the Mid/Support roles. In no way is Vel'koz an AP assassin. If you want an AP assassin, play Diana, Fizz, or Ekko. If you try to play Vel'koz in the jungle higher than low ELO, you'll be in a world of pain.

Sincerely, A Vel'koz Main

Ruin Lance4/7/2016, 7:17:36 PM1 votes

the answer is no, this will not work at higher elos. you will get counterjungled and get so far behind.