@meddler the downfall of a diverse champion

WindLord7070··12 votes·965 views

Way back nidalee was patched to allow her passive to work on jungle monsters and that one little change ended up making her one of the most broken junglers that game has ever seen. In the next few weeks,months,and years she would be nerfed endlessly but all of those nerfs did not hurt her jungle nearly as much as the hurt her in 3 other roles. Those 3 other roles in which she was not extremely over powered nor extremely underpowered. She Had the options to go mid as an ap champ she could go bot as a damage support (even if this is looked down upon in some ways it wasn't terrible and did actually work) and she could go top with multiple playstyles and builds from ap/ad/tank you name it she could pull it off. Yes she has had patches in both mid and top when she was pretty un fun to play against but those times she did get changed/nerfed to fix that. She used to be one of the most fun champions to play and it felt good when learning how to actually play her properly with all the cool little tricks and mechanics she had (most of which got removed). It's crazy to me now that I can go into a game and pick nidalee for mid/top and have people flip out because "she doesn't belong there" that I can talk about nidalee in lane and there are people who think I'm crazy because they have never known nidalee to be a lane champion. I just want riot to show nidalee some love and let her go into lane again myself and many others have talked about the problems she has now and have made posts among posts about many different things that could help her about things that could have been done differently to not have had lane nidalee being the one who was hurt by all the nerfs. I've read that riot wants to look at champions and give them some "role diversity" and I think nidalee should be at the top of the list considering she used to actually have diversity.

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Strwbry Kouhai3 votes

Hi! Mid Nidalee has been my highest mastery and most played champion ever since champion mastery came out. To me, it seems like they forced nidalee in to a role they felt she should fill. It seems like this was before Riot was open to champions being played with multiple play styles and multiple roles. I believe somewhere recently they said that they would like most junglers to be viable in at least one lane (dev vlog maybe?). I feel like they should take a look back at lane nidalee. When balanced, I don’t feel it’s harmful to the game. Also, I would comment on the Gameplay update posts he does. That’s where the LeBlanc and rengar mains had been commenting before they started working on them.

WindLord70701 votes

I honestly would not be surprised if he has me blocked. I comment on almost every single one of those asking about nidalee lol

Eedat2 votes

This entire thread you are completely neglecting the fact that she got a full rework. You're trying to make it out like Nid was all these things at once when she wasn't. This is the timeline. Nid was an AP mid. Her entire play style was toxic and revolved around just spammming spears until one connected for 2/3 an enemies hp. The community hated it and it was a shit design so Riot reworked her. This is when she got her marked mechanic. She was then played top lane as a bruiser with triforce. She was not played as an AP mid anymore at this time. This became problemati cbecause she would again just spam spears until one connected then jump in and automatically win trades. She also had the benefit of being ranged so she could just harass you down then and any trade back by jumping into cougar form and hoping away. She was like Jayce on steroids. She received some nerfs but Riot added the ability for her to mark jungle creeps. That's when she became one of the most broken junglers ever. Essentially became Lee Sin steroids. Support Nid was NEVER a real thing. That's just completely made up. When she got reworked some people tried playing her bot in the same way that people try every new champ in weird roles until they figure out what works. Trying to present her as being a viable support is 100% a lie to make your argument sound better.

That's the actual history.

WindLord70701 votes

I clearly said she wasn't the best support but it was playable also I'm not talking about pre rework nidalee. She WAS an ap mid after her rework as well as a top laner she was also played as both BEFORE her re work as well anyway.

Ahristocats1 votes

Remember when Kha'zix was forced into the jungle?

yea, i love diversity me 2

Colton1471 votes

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Remember when Kha'zix was forced into the jungle?

yea, i love diversity me 2

Zoe was forced into the support role. item 3070

Sagee Prime1 votes

Most changes the balance team tends to make for Nidalee seem to be poorly thought out and just to get her off the radar when she's on the radar. I don't really have any hope for anyone working in that department and I don't think she's character that anyone there actually play if they even play

WindLord70701 votes

I still hold a bit of hope as I've seen other people post that a couple of rioters would like to see her back in lane but it does seem like the vast majority working at riot really hate the idea.

Shìnra1 votes

Nidalee was my 2nd most played champion on my entire account since season 2... i really miss her in lane, both mid and top but mostly Top. i would literally trade ANYTHING for her to be a laner again, There isn't many champions who are as fun as her in my opinion.

WindLord70701 votes

i'll fight till the day league dies or I die for nidalee to come back as a top laner.

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