Why is azir so weak?

Markus Vakarian·7/22/2017, 4:22:34 PM·1 votes·3,072 views

W+Q damage is too low considering i have used 2 abilities People just move and don't take additional damage and they can attack me because i'm vulnerabile. Only 1 soldier left and can't be moved. i thought i could use solder to safe farm but if i go too back i can' auto attack even if the tooltips says "soldiers can attacj enemies outside azir's range". It's not really true. I must be close to soldiers. I know that if i go too too back the soldier disappears but even not going so far i can't auto attack minions.

People just engage me because they know they will do more damage...Virktor Q+AA+E....even if he takes my Q+W+W does more damage (he gets a shield from Q) Orianna Q+W more damage (she has a shield) Etc etc..i can't trade with anyone,maybe only twisted fate because he's another bad mid laner when we speak about 1v1 trade in lane.

16 Comments

Viktor Von Lazer7/22/2017, 4:49:59 PM2 votes

He's not weak. If anything he's lane bully and late game hypercarry but has a weak mid game. watch LS coaching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0vaNyFqEQ&t=8s

You'll see has pretty good shove power at lvl 1 when you learn how to place his soldiers, I don't think any midlaner shoves quite as quickly as he does early game except for maybe Aurelion Sol.

He gets lvl 2 quick and allows for a W-Q-AA-AA-TLD proc, that chunks them to about 60% then you just move back immediately because you're on cooldown. You win in two cases:

  1. trade and retreat immediately using range advantage or
  2. extend the fight while they are on cooldown autoattacking with your soldiers. You're a DPS champion afterall.

Focus on your csing mostly, and theirs. You see they are going for a creep fire a soldier in that direction Q-AA-AA- TLD. You outrange Orianna any attempt to Q-W is obvious. The same way you can't autoattack with soldiers outside a certain range is the same way she can't move the ball with Q properly outside a certain range. If she's walking up Q-AA-AA-TLD and kite back (making sure that you're attack moving), then just push the wave and force her to choose between csing and attacking. Believe me she doesn't have enough mana for both early game.

Barrier is your best friend. What happens when you shuffle an enemy burst champion they use their burst combo and you pop barrier? You win the fight and get a kill. once you block the majority of the damage with barrier it will probably be 5 seconds till their next ability is off cooldown. All that's left is for them to eat several autoattacks (5 seconds worth) from soldiers as they try to run away. Same goes for the laning phase if they get greedy for the thunder lord proc. They are on cooldown keep attacking your autos hurt more than theirs.

As for Viktor, just don't pick Azir into him. His damage is high instant, you can't avoid or juke it like Orianna or just use range to keep away cause he has decent enough range with E. You'd just want to avoid trading as much as possible in his case, and farm/scale up (i've asked about him in particular on AzirMains)

PimpStickNasus7/22/2017, 4:39:04 PM2 votes

Cause you aren't using the kongdoo monster icon so get on that and fix it. Honestly I think Azir to be fine you just have to be able to use him to a fairly high skillcap to get his full potential (which I definitely do not do) but even someone like me can play him at my level usually very effectively and come late game there is nothing that can stop me so it really feels great to get to that game and just be this unstoppable force.

UnboundHades7/22/2017, 4:24:20 PM2 votes

azir is a late game champ and if you know they are gonna engage on you why are u wasting q

Infernape7/22/2017, 4:26:43 PM1 votes

Azir is an inherently broken champion, so Riot Olafed him. He's intentionally kept weak because he's a walking balance problem.

WalkingInACircle7/22/2017, 4:33:12 PM1 votes

He's not.

Irelia Bot7/22/2017, 6:39:58 PM1 votes

Because they gave him everything meaning that instead of having weak points they instead have to make him all around weak.

AndrijaMC8/8/2018, 9:56:20 PM1 votes

listen, rito really killed azir and i don't think it will revive him back alive. now all we can do is pray for azir buff.

9Wly9oMl027/22/2017, 4:25:14 PM1 votes

Because he is a hyper carry that can kill the entire enemy team without even having to get remotely close to them. So, when he is not weak, he completely dominates the game.

Clutch Thompson7/22/2017, 4:26:26 PM1 votes

He's been weak because when his numbers are competitive, he's too difficult to deal with