Why Hasn't M.F Been Looked At In Terms Of Being Too Strong?

King Odin·Nov 28, 2015·8 votes·928 views

She's has poke, utility, AOE, and burst. She's a bigger lane bully than Caitlyn, scales extremely well and can win a team fight with only her ult. At least Lucian's ult was single target and you guys nerfed that, but now you have an MF which does what lucian except she can kill 5 people all at the same time before they can get to her.

She has a targetted Ez Q that can crit with a COOLDOWN: 7 / 6 / 5 / 4 / 3. 8 CD attack speed steriod with BONUS ATTACK SPEED: 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100% and a movement speed steriod. So she isn't just a caster she is also an extremely great auto attacker. Either make her a great lane bully like or an excellent scaler like but not both.

20 Comments

OdiousMoleNov 28, 20158 votes

stop saying shit like why hasn't x when it has you fucking nimrod

TwigglesNov 28, 20151 votes

'Nimrod'? Jesus. I haven't heard that word in a LONG time. Like... Like The Three Stooges kind of long time. Thank you for that. I always love to see old/uncommon words. :D

EcchiOtakuTMNov 28, 20151 votes

Wow I gotta agree with the other dude I literally haven't heart that in quite some time jeez.

Big LincolnNov 28, 20154 votes

her damage is too high but that's about it, she offers limited utility and doesn't have amazing mobility if you pop her strut

Q only crits if it kills the first target, you can avoid this by not standing behind near-death minions or teammates W's steroid only lasts 3 seconds unless she switches targets often, which makes her mediocre at dueling her ult takes 3 seconds to channel fully, that's plenty of time to interrupt her or burst her while she's standing still

she definitely needs her damage taken down a peg, love tap is too strong because it works off of her Q's bounce. bonus damage on top of the crit will half-health people in lane

TNHA BaritoneNov 28, 20151 votes

I agree with everything BUT your last point. Slightly buff love tap dmg as compensation for nerfing ability dmg

UirayaNov 28, 20152 votes

If you're dumb enough to consistently get hit by crit double ups you were losing the lane to anyone playing any champ anyway.

DeaerasNov 28, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Angry Bards,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vYcakiEi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-28T15:42:23.176+0000) Q only crits if it kills the first target, you can avoid this by not standing behind near-death minions or teammates

easier said than done

XxxLumberJackxxXNov 28, 20154 votes

She was literally nerfed in the last patch. .... please change thread title.

Also due to a lack of mobility and utility in her kit her aoe kill them all ability needs to be good.

King OdinNov 28, 20151 votes

Great now she has base health of 530 almost as close to Jinx's 518, Vayne's 498 and Caitlyn's 524 :)

Sir HammerlockNov 28, 20153 votes

Her Q's damage is honestly negligent past laning phase, as most of it's damage comes from killing a target with the first shot of her Q, making the second hit do double damage. Past laning phase this is almost impossible to do consistently on enemy champions.

Her ultimate is, debatebly, one of the worst in terms of damage unless you have a wombo-team build around her for keeping her enemies' locked down.

She can't carry as hard late in the game as Vayne and Tristana can.

IonianNov 28, 20151 votes

Lmao she currently has one of the best ults in the game.

UirayaNov 28, 20151 votes

Read the "unless you have a wombo-team" part again. It's true it's amazing, IF you get hit by all three seconds of it. That's not something MF can do herself, even if she gets you in the center of an E you're still taking half of it at worst (considerably less if you have a dash, which everybody does).

trash sionNov 28, 20152 votes

She has been. She was literally just nerfed.

Mr Broken WingsNov 28, 20151 votes

Its cute that people think that a targeted ability is better then a non targeted ability.

IonianNov 28, 20152 votes

There's a reason why Malz, Anivia and Brand are the best mids in the game.

Mr Broken WingsNov 28, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=If Ahri Was Real,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vYcakiEi,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-11-28T16:36:21.492+0000)

There's a reason why Malz, Anivia and Brand are the best mids in the game.

And its the keystone mastery, obviously. Your point?

IonianNov 28, 20151 votes

Yeah that's the only reason right. Also explains why Cassio, Azir, Heimer and Morgana are so op and always picked xddd. Maybe it's mostly because their kits are stupidly simple while also containing megatons of targeted damage. Oh and did I mention the keystone you care so much about is also 100% targeted damage?

Sir HammerlockNov 28, 20151 votes

The Deathfire Touch mastery plays a part in why Brand and Mazlahar are good mids right now, but not Anivia - most Anivia's take Thunderlord's Decree because Deathfire doesn't really do much on her during laning phase.

Professor WardNov 28, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Broken Wings,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vYcakiEi,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-11-28T16:26:13.656+0000)

Its cute that people think that a targeted ability is better then a non targeted ability.

they literally almost always are