Hey Riot, are you going to be adding new Bots to Player vs AI?

HexaDecimel··32 votes·7,083 views

In a recent PBE update files where added for a bunch of different champions that suggested they might be added. One of the champions on the list, Teemo is now playable on customs. So I was just wondering if we will be seeing new champions in Player vs AI any time soon.

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RiotMeddler7 votes

Our plan is to add a few new Intermediate bots in an upcoming patch, with potentially a few more in the following patch(es). Timing on that's not certain yet, nor is the exact list of bots (some skill functionality that's not in etc).

Evelyn Endwise5 votes

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TehChaosWolf1 votes

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Whilst adding some new bots is awesome, something I've always wanted to see added to bots in some form is bringing their runes and masteries up to par. (As I _believe _they're currently running something inferior (correct me if I'm wrong) - Either T2 Runes or just less Runes overall.)

I have noticed(I think) that the beginner bots at least do not have keystone masteries. Not sure about intermediate, but I'd like to see a bot play with masteries and runes if for no other reason than to see them have some sort of group fighting power. As is, you can pretty much 1v5 any set of bots with the right build.

Abyssphere4 votes

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Our plan is to add a few new Intermediate bots in an upcoming patch, with potentially a few more in the following patch(es). Timing on that's not certain yet, nor is the exact list of bots (some skill functionality that's not in etc).

When are you gonna give them masteries again? Intermediates really should have them.

Myrmiron4 votes

Speaking about bots, any plans on adding higher difficulty bots? I think we can all agree that intermediate bots are too easy.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

More like fixin them.

HexaDecimel1 votes

That is awesome to hear, and thank you so much for the response.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Can some s4/s5-introduced bugs on them be fixed? Like them buying wards and not placing them, or them randomly stopping moving, or going on with just autoattacks as a melee support...

HexaDecimel1 votes

One other Question, will the items that champions purchase be getting any updating? And will champions be getting keystone masteries?

WoonStruck5 votes

I still don't understand why they haven't added all of them yet. Only champs with specific combos/actions, like Cass, Ryze, Kalista, GP, Taric, Vel'koz, Irelia, Brand, Lux, Lulu, Karma etc would be any issue to implement. Just don't add them in yet. Most champs have a basic "use all skills" combo, and at the very least they should be added.

kasfas1 votes

They have brand, Lux, Irelia and taric, already. I think even ryze.

WoonStruck1 votes

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They have brand, Lux, Irelia and taric, already. I think even ryze.

Yes, but they're garbage as bots outside of brand/lux just spamming base damages on people. They don't function in a way that reflects the champions well.

SociopathFriend5 votes

To be fair, bots aren't for learning how to face enemy champions- they're for learning how to use yours. Anyone who has a basic understanding of the game can beat just about any bot with just about any champion.

Fisherman Fízz2 votes

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I still don't understand why they haven't added all of them yet. Only champs with specific combos/actions, like Cass, Ryze, Kalista, GP, Taric, Vel'koz, Irelia, Brand, Lux, Lulu, Karma etc would be any issue to implement.

Well I still can't see them add a Fizz bot and having him do his combo decently.

Maximum Morde8 votes

All he'd have to do is roll a random number then use that skill and all chat "Outplayed" boom silver Fizz Bot implemented, which is far better than most of the bots that play like they are cardboard 12.

HexaDecimel4 votes

Well it probably would be alot of extra work to write code so that every single champion had adequate AI and used their abilities properly. Like you said, alot of the champions they currently have are fairly basic in their play style and abilities. I imagine them trying to script an Azir to play semi decently would be alot of work.

Doesn't mean I don't want them to do it though :)

WoonStruck1 votes

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Well it probably would be alot of extra work to write code so that every single champion had adequate AI and used their abilities properly. Like you said, alot of the champions they currently have are fairly basic in their play style and abilities. I imagine them trying to script an Azir to play semi decently would be alot of work.

Doesn't mean I don't want them to do it though :)

They don't need to do complicated champs, but is it so much to ask for champs like Nami, Janna, etc. I don't think Shen was even removed for his rework. Graves either. Aatrox would be simple to add. If below 50%, uses healing w. If above, uses damage W. Always uses healing vs minions.

HexaDecimel1 votes

Ya, it would be really interesting to get some insight into everything required to get a champion added.

PopePancake4 votes

Whatever happened to Veigar bot? i know he was a bot, but they removed him for some reason

WoonStruck1 votes

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Whatever happened to Veigar bot? i know he was a bot, but they removed him for some reason

Deleted noobs without them realizing what happened.

Nielarken4 votes

Im sure it was due to them still buying items that have long been removed from the game.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Same with sona & sion, when they got reworked their bots got removed; except for soraka & cassiopia for some reason. Which I'd like to hear why since riot still hasn't addressed it.

Princess Emma1 votes

I remember a long time ago they said that Sona bot was not supposed to exist in the first place, but I could be wrong.

Clockwork Mouse2 votes

Because bots are perfect at combos. Though Since his stun is no longer intent, and his Q is a skill shot, i';d say he is safe to put back in.

ArbiterOfTruth1 votes

It's because of his rework. They'd have to redo the AI.

DracosKasu3 votes

We need the DoomBot back, the bot are too weak. We need stonger BoT Rito

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Lµnacy2 votes

The bots are also just very bad, they're better at dodging certain skillshots than the original bots but they're overall worse. They are extremely aggresive pre-6 in a 1v2 and chase you to your turret, and are complete cowardice post-6 constantly hiding behind turrets and not actually doing anything. They also don't roam as much besides the a few group-ups at mid lane. A lot of games suffer from this one, complete breakdown at low hp, they don't do any actions other than run to base and you can just follow them without fear even if you are 1 hit from death.

Hrud3 votes

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The bots are also just very bad, they're better at dodging certain skillshots than the original bots but they're overall worse. They are extremely aggresive pre-6 in a 1v2 and chase you to your turret, and are complete cowardice post-6 constantly hiding behind turrets and not actually doing anything. They also don't roam as much besides the a few group-ups at mid lane. A lot of games suffer from this one, complete breakdown at low hp, they don't do any actions other than run to base and you can just follow them without fear even if you are 1 hit from death.

You know what I miss? The old bots diving me top lane as soon as their creeps reached my tower. Good times. Old bots where so much more fun.

HenryDahNewb1 votes

Well according to this, http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/01/128-pbe-update.html Now Gangplank, Jhin, Olaf, Teemo, Volibear, and Yasuo bots are added! YEA![slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

Almost Every Champion has been added as a potential choice for custom games, so likely they'll be added to the Player vs AI list of choices.

MavenSong1 votes

Already live ive seen bots start using items this patch.... they got somethin planned. This im sure.

Rendarkan1 votes

I wonder if... It can't be...

EVERYONE PREPARE!!!! THE DOOM BOTS ARE RETURNING!!! WITH DOOM ALTERED ITEMS!!!

BLU Medic1 votes

I'd love to see more bots. The new ones on the PBE are good (Jhinn is an interesting addition) but we could always go with more, and adding more bots to Beginner and Intermediate Coop VS AI too, rather than customs only.

lildyo1 votes

There really should be two more difficulties added: expert and master level difficulties. In both of those you have the meta-type 1 top, 1 mid, 1 jungle, and 2 bot with the proper roles. Bots would also go for secondary objectives in these difficulties. Master would be far more challenging and more akin to PvP. I really wish by now this could have happened :(

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