Tryndamere mechanics question

HoloFate··1 votes·785 views

So with Trynd's E having the 100% ap ratio as well as AD

  1. if you were to have any AP built, is the damage it deals still translated as AD?
  2. If it is translated to AD output from AP, does that mean armor pen would be effective for the E's damage against champions?
  3. If it is AP output, would magic pen increase it's damage against champions? Thank you.

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Oglaf2 votes

There is no such thing as "AP/AD damage".

Just Physical and Magical damage (and True damage, but that is quite rare).

You have to look at the type of damage the ability deals, not what it scales with.

In this case, Trynd's spin deals Physical damage.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

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You can tell what type of damage the ability does and what it scales off of by looking at its description. His E, for example, deals physical damage. It will always do only physical damage regardless of whether you are going AP, AD, both or none at all. The orange text is what the ability is getting from your AD and the green is what it's getting from your AP. While it does make sense that AP typically goes with dealing magic damage, it's not a requirement, same for AD with physical damage.

Most champions only scale with AD and AP, but some have abilities which scale with other stats such as Armor, Mana, or Crit, and these are denoted by different colors.

Oglaf1 votes

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Most champions only scale with AD and AP, but some have abilities which scale with other stats such as Armor, Mana, or Crit, and these are denoted by different colors.

And Health.

Lawd knows I love abilities that scale with Health...!

Braum Sejuani

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

His E, for example, deals physical damage. It will always do only physical damage regardless of whether you are going AP, AD, both or none at all.

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Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Well it's not changing any of the ability's damage into magic, it is doing its own magic damage on top of it.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Buuut, he hits E and does magic damage :D

Oglaf2 votes

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Buuut, he hits E and does magic damage :D

No, technically the item's Passive is dealing Magic damage. Not his spin.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Technically, you hit E and do magic damage.

Oglaf1 votes

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Technically, you hit E and do magic damage.

But not via his E.

This is not rocket surgery to figure out, bub.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Yes, technically.

Did you use E? Yes. Did you use anything else (other than torment being built)? No.

Did you do magic damage? Yes.

Oglaf1 votes

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Did you use anything else?

item 3151

The item deals damage, not his E.

Not. Rocket. Surgery.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

But the item cannot do damage with a spell being cast.

And pick between brain surgery or rocket science lol. I don't think people refer to themselves as rocket surgeons.

HoloFate1 votes

So if you then built AP, his spin still translating to AD - if you threw in a item 3035 would the armor pen work with his E since it translates to AD, EVEN THOUGH you only built AP??? Does that make sense? lol. But yeah would it work?

TequilaZombie1 votes

Tryndamere mechanics question

He has none. Next Question!

Kappa

SlashStriker1 votes

I got Tryndamore mechonics questun tu where are Rito gona giv him some?

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