Magic Pen or Armor Pen? (For AP scaling)

HoloFate·2/1/2017, 10:09:41 AM·1 votes·1,167 views

So in cases like Tryndamere E (100% ap scale) or Varus (Some ap scale) would these abilities benefit at all from magic pen if you built ap? Or would the magic pen just be worthless since their output is primarily translated to Attack Damage? If so would it make more sense to build armor pen on an ap build?

Sorry I know this is very specific, I am just confused about how it works. For example if you built all AP because of the scaling, the damage I presume it still translated to AD regardless, at which point would armor pen boost that damage output with an ap build? It's very confusing.

3 Comments

FeuerfalkeFX2/1/2017, 10:28:34 AM1 votes

Hello KH Axel,

The scaling of an ability (ad,ap,health,etc) has nothing to do with what kind of damage it deals. For example: Thresh's E passive scales with 200% (rank 5) of your** bonus ad**, though it still deals magic damage. Varus W and R (both scaling with ap) deal magic damage. Not sure about Tryndameres E.

best regards, ScriptarinaFX

Sona Ping2/1/2017, 10:36:38 AM1 votes

No, that's not how it works at all. You have greatly misunderstood how the game works and your assumptions are the reason it seems confusing.

their output is primarily translated to Attack Damage? If so would it make more sense to build armor pen on an ap build?

AP and Attack damage have nothing to do with this topic. There is no "translate to AD"; Attack damage is a stat and it has nothing to do with damage calculations or armor penetration. Varus being an "AD champion" does not "translate" his stats. His Blighted Quiver has AP scaling and it does magic damage, armor pen would have no effect on Blighted Quiver's damage. So no, it would not make sense because you are building to make his Blight be your damage in your match, then it would not help you at all.

ArnoldSchwarzens2/1/2017, 10:50:17 AM1 votes

The other commenters already told you the basics of it, but what you can always do is just read up the wiki. It has taught me pretty much everything I know about the game and I highly encourage you to read up on it too. Here are some that I highly recommend to read through if you find the time:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Physical_damage http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_damage http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/True_damage http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_damage http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_speed http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ability_power http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Health http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_resistance http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_penetration http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_penetration

There are also many other pages you can read if you want to improve your game knowledge. I hope it helps.