Karma mains asked for a gameplay update. We did not ask for number buffs.

Makattack·6/17/2019, 6:02:16 PM·44 votes·14,580 views

It's really that simple. Riot didn't buff her because we complained (b/c that would insinuate that Riot actually listens to Karma mains). They buffed her for pro play. Oh...and she had a new skin coming out so, why not?

52 Comments

Hochelaga6/17/2019, 6:26:12 PM5 votes

I didn't ask for an update for Karma.

We all know that Riot has plans for a Karma gameplay update.

Why not take a buff in the meantime?

NTrumpWeTrust6/18/2019, 8:59:25 PM4 votes

they buffed her to sell her new 10 dollar skin, let's be real

Crescent Dusk6/18/2019, 4:15:39 AM4 votes

That gypsy runs faster than Usain Bolt now while having shields and a root on top of the damage she does.

It's a bit much.

Zeyphel6/18/2019, 5:11:51 AM4 votes

Riot Games: "Buffs you say? Don't worry, we are buffing her again in the next patch to make her even more fun to play and specially to play against!"

flibitydoo6/17/2019, 8:13:54 PM4 votes

it doesn't matter if no one asked for number buffs

if you wanted actual game health and gameplay fixes then that era of morello-gamehealth-balancing is gone.

All they do is set up balance levers of numeric fixes and then flip the switches when the winrates reach the threshold. It doesn't matter if those number changes fail to address the actual gameplay concerns of the playerbase. All the balance team wants to see is those winrate/playrate/banrate percentages at acceptable values and then they can call it a good job game fixed and go home.

ModBianca Colt6/19/2019, 12:20:12 AM3 votes

Still waiting for her pointless passive to get merged with her R... Maybe one day...

Sassmast3r6/17/2019, 7:01:47 PM3 votes

They buffed her because of Dark Star Karma, plain and simple. Otherwise they pretend like she doesn't exist. Like they did with NeuroCat's update which never saw the light of day, and the update they immediately were talking about afterwards involving passive changes that have also not been tested yet.

JoeMG6/17/2019, 8:07:53 PM3 votes

Ohh so she did get buffs... That explains why I keep seeing her mid and she keeps shitting on people (myself included)..

I've also noticed issues with her Q hitbox and her new skin. Anyone else see this or is her Q always like that?

Glaricion6/17/2019, 10:39:47 PM3 votes

Why a gameplay update when they could do a gameplay revert?

Better yet, separate her into Karma and Darha. Might alleviate some of the tug-of-war issues between her 'flexible utility battlemage' fans and the 'she's a support' fans.

Zezilian6/17/2019, 7:01:35 PM2 votes

Waiting for Zilean's new skin and buff too. Zilean hasn't been touched since release, only got multiple indirect nerfs.

Kaisha6/18/2019, 1:17:23 PM2 votes

I miss the old karma, the new one plays nothing like the old one. They should have just made a new champ.

Sukishoo6/18/2019, 1:34:24 PM2 votes

Sorry but what makes you think she's anymore important over their other priorities?? For that matter, what makes any of the threads out there going "nerf xxx, buff xxx, rework/revert xxx" any more or less important than each other?

Though Ive never been a Karma main, I've loved Karma as I do have a mastery 7 on her, but I've never found anything wrong with her kit. The one GU they had started to plan on her was an interesting idea, but failed to pan out and thus they will only do balance changes until they have something better.

JaibamonLAN6/18/2019, 12:39:22 AM2 votes

I asked for a better Karma, I got a better Karma.

I always loved this iteration of Karma, I don't want another rework.

Karma Main from S3.

Eleshakai6/18/2019, 2:13:48 PM1 votes

Riot buffed her because of https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/05/dev-champion-balance-framework/

ANY small champion changes you see are because of that.

Buuriin6/18/2019, 5:06:52 AM1 votes

I don’t think Riot care about Karma or enchanter in general. It clearly showed that since the begin of rune reforged.

As long as the skin sell and their favorite champion still doing well, nothing matter.

Winterkill6/18/2019, 5:15:43 AM1 votes

You are exactly right. It's been six years Karma mains have been asking for a GU and it has been ignored. Now, because of Developers refusal to address her problems there are 3 different Karma communities fighting with one another. Not only that, it's been 6 years that her incomplete art assets have been ignored as well. At the end of the day Riot will only acknowledge this champion for a buff and then nerf, when it's in correspondence with a skin. They didn't buff her recently to make her better. Riot buffed Karma because she got a skin.

Ryze has received a rework every year expect 2018. Riot prioirtized a VGU on Ezreal over problems with Karma. Riot prioritizes massive reworks on champions with communities that are much more vocal, nasty and more people.

SanKakU6/18/2019, 10:12:14 AM1 votes

Not everyone wanted Karma to be deleted from the game. Stop trying to get them to delete champs. It's just the skin hype. As long as the hype doesn't die down too fast they'll stop buffing her. If the play rate remains high or goes higher then they will nerf her.

14daysuspensionk6/18/2019, 11:38:10 AM1 votes

If you're talking about a big gameplay update it's probably not gonna happen, since they're already working on things like Volibear Fiddlesticks and an upcoming adc. I think a minor one is possible though.