Do you prefer Devourer or Warrior on Kindred and why?

PlsTouchMeGently·Oct 15, 2015·1 votes·7,379 views

Just curious what you guys are going with. I normally go devourer since Kindred has really low AD scalings on their abilities, but I've seen quite a few warrior Kindreds do well as well.

18 Comments

RaînfallOct 15, 20151 votes

Devourer for now. Will try it coupled with runaans.

IcyPepperOct 15, 20151 votes

I prefer devourer for faster clearing. Warrior probably isn't bad, but for Kindred AS is better early.

You could rush BORK, but it takes longer to complete for multiple reasons.

3tysonOct 15, 20151 votes

devourer by a long way your next item wil probertly be botrk because of his passive

his kit goes better with atk speed than dmg botrk goes better with atk speed than dmg if you get decent stacks u dont really need dmg lol

LaughingMan11Oct 15, 20151 votes

I'd say Devourer just because they scale better with On-hit than they do AD.

stabby himikoOct 16, 20151 votes

But Devourer got nerfed

LaughingMan11Oct 16, 20151 votes

Really the 10 damage loss and every 4th auto doesnt make the item bad on Kindred. Her scaling really isnt that great wit AD, so the armor pen is the most useful thing in the warrior item. SD, + Botrk + Wits End = Butt loads of DPS.

GigahappytownOct 15, 20151 votes

if your team isn't shit build devouere if your team is shit build warrior

warrior is not and never was bought for ad it was always bought for the armor pen. kindred scales best with armor pen warrior is effective as soon as you purchase it allowing you to gank and get passive stacks

devourer takes a while and got nerfed hard for ranged champs.

ProfDrDeathOct 15, 20151 votes

Kindred is a pretty funny case in that regard.

Her AD scaling is rather lackluster on Q and E (0.2, respectively). W scales decently (0.4 AD), considering that it is a continous effect stemming from Wolf attacking a target with your base + 50% of bonus AS. However, she makes good use out of CdR to reduce W's long CD, and her passive's and E's %-damage is physical, thus benefitting decently from Armor Penetration.

The AS scaling, as such, is rather lackluster for Lamb alone, too, as Kindred only has average base AS (0.625). As with AD, though, W's Wolf also scales with your AS, essentially giving you one and a half times the damage in your W field.

Considering that Devourer recently got nerfed for ranged junglers (and Warrior was buffed), Warrior might actually benefit her more than Devourer if you get a nice AS item next.

lolipopevelynnOct 15, 20151 votes

there really is no reason to not go sated devour on them... even with the nerf to range champs its still insanely strong considering there passive scales infinite.

the entire reason sated was nerfed to begin with was SPECIFICALLY because of kindred. she abuses it so hard.

LadyRenlyOct 15, 20151 votes

I prefer warrior for the pen and CDR.

Secret Butt FunOct 15, 20151 votes

Kindred should go warrior and then build a standard ADC build like item 3031 and item 3087 afterwards because in my experience, item 3932 and item 3153 is ass on her. As a jungle, your job is to clear fast and gank fast, so having that huge AD will help you snowball. If you can't kill the enemy when ganking within 8 seconds, it will almost always be a fail, so burst is key, and Kindred has plenty of that.

Everything about Kindred is designed to be a late game monster snowball champion. I got 11 stacks in one game before and there was absolutely nothing their tanks could build that could stop me.

FatalitýOct 15, 20151 votes

Devourer. Kindred needs attack speed and on-hit attacks thats how his kit is like and how you build him.

FowusOct 15, 20151 votes

Warrior, the armor pen and cdr is good with dance of arrows

the reason I don't go devourer is because it got nerfed with ranged champions

WeiponponOct 18, 20151 votes

I've been experimenting with both, and the choice is difficult for me because neither is overwhelmingly good on her. the only valuable stat on warrior is the arpen because her base stats and ad scaling are bad. because devourer is nerfed and your passive and bork reduce in effectiveness as the target's hp drops, the 4th auto proc is noticeably weaker. The gist of it is this; warrior gives you noticeable strength early game, and helps your invades against the enemy jungler, whereas devourer makes you extremely weak as a first item and seriously hinders your ganking. I also barely notice the powerspike when I get sated, not at all like a shyv, xin, aatrox, or jax. The arpen is nice on warrior but I like to sell it late game for something else. The one upside i've noticed to devourer is it synergizes somewhat well when you can't gank effectively. kindred is designed to clear the jungle and if you have decent early dragon control and get your stacks from camps you can get sated fairly quickly. Late game when you have sated bork runaans and lw you start doing insane amounts of damage in teamfights and with a BT you become unduelable. I find this build to work very well in comps that have aoe and cc, when playing against a team with a significant frontline. in general; if you're going for late game prolonged teamfights and can manage the map well/have a team that will help you secure marked camps, sated can be very good. if you want early pressure, and more freedom in your choice of items, warrior tends to be better. as a side note, kindred does no magic damage outside devourer on hit. wit's end is extremely questionable

SIaytonOct 20, 20151 votes

Attack speed is kindred's best stat and the stuff on warrior doesn't benefit her that much. Q basically has a flat 2 second cooldown since you'll always have W out in fights, so the CDR doesn't matter too much. Being able to attack quickly is important for rushing objectives and it helps shred tanks. And since she has bad AD scaling, the extra magic damage is like its own scaling and isn't attached to kindred's kit, so overall I think its a DPS increase. 10 flat armor pen is basically all you want warrior for and I don't think its beneficial enough to warrant getting it over devourer. Plus kiting is much easier with faster attack speed.

Even if its nerfed on ranged champions, the extra hit is still an extra hit you won't have with warrior.