Opinions on Darius?

PHD Dunk··5 votes·2,210 views

Since it's been pretty much a whole season since Darius has been last touched (5.21 correct if wrong) what are your opinions on him at the moment? Kinda curious as a Darius main myself he seems good but then again I don't know much about league yet. Any opinions appreciated!

55 Comments

the weeaboo4 votes

Does way too much damage with way too much tank. Needs to be one or the other. Or at least give us some items to sorta stop his damage in lane...

Joseph Gladstone3 votes

rito needs to fix the millions of bugs he has

PHD Dunk1 votes

Feelsbadman on the Q animation bug

2DunksFromHell1 votes

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Feelsbadman on the Q animation bug

What Q animation bug?

PHD Dunk1 votes

Where his legs become really weird during Q animation, not sure if fixed

Joseph Gladstone3 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFsHXU6EfxU this one too, got a lot more

Kirius Dark4 votes

Really shouldnt be maxing W second FYI

Giving up 5% armor pen per level of E and faster CoC procs = both damage and survival... for 1 sec off CD per level on cripp

Joseph Gladstone3 votes

hear that a lot, i prefer w tho, thx

Tychusfindlay9192 votes

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hear that a lot, i prefer w tho, thx

I prefer smart darii, oh well, it is merely a preference.

Joseph Gladstone3 votes

guess so

FalconPawwwwnch3 votes

On the strong side for sure

Might need small nerfs but that depends where season goes, I doubt he will need nerfs

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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On the strong side for sure

Might need small nerfs but that depends where season goes, I doubt he will need nerfs

Hes being propped up by an assassin meta and his synergy with CoC.

Before the assassin update and introduction of CoC, his win, ban, and pick rate were starting to decline. Once CoC gets nerfed and people realize that most of the assassins kind of suck ass, he'll become mediocre again, or worse continue his decline.

Big Lincoln2 votes

buff him

PHD Dunk4 votes

Why do you say that? Feels like any kind of buff would be scary, but then again I don't know much

Big Lincoln3 votes

his whole kit should crit imo

PHD Dunk1 votes

+1 for giggles

Mountain Warden2 votes

He hits too hard for how tanky he is. I know that's the whole point of Darius, but damn he hurts so much.

Kirius Dark2 votes

Maybe shitters who kept maxing W second are finally converting to the proper E max second thinking they want more CoC

Tychusfindlay9194 votes

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Maybe shitters who kept maxing W second are finally converting to the proper E max second thinking they want more CoC

When I see darii max W second, I cri and die inside.

Drehirth1 votes

I think he's very strong atm, but that may be mostly due to tanks being so strong (who are made to order for him).

decksays1 votes

I think he's alright. Maybe a little nerf to tankiness. He is extremely easy to kite though. He's a lower teir freelo. Can't say much about upper teir

PermabannedGaren1 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Darius

Is performing extremely well all of a sudden, and I'm not really sure why. Maybe because Nasus is popular?

PHD Dunk1 votes

I've been playing Darius a lot with CoC cause of apprehend, possibly due to how good the mastery is atm, but who knows!

l Helios l1 votes

CotC and that E bug they fixed a while back. Both were really big.

AcidTheWarlock1 votes

I'd like to see the spike in Kled's winrate after the Nasus buffs.

I've played into Nasus once on Kled and roflstomped him.

Apparently he's great into doggo

Keìron1 votes

Kled is good vs any juggernaut.

AcidTheWarlock2 votes

He's not especially good into Darius since they scale similarly and Darius is much harder to kill early-game due to his heal.

More a skill matchup, but one I can't win.

Tychusfindlay9192 votes

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Kled is good vs any juggernaut.

A good darius will shit on kled so hard it isnt funny. Noxian might is better than remount.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/Darius

Is performing extremely well all of a sudden, and I'm not really sure why. Maybe because Nasus is popular?

He is pretty much the only viable juggernaut that can very reliably proc CoC. The rise in popularity of E max nasus helps too. If positioned properly, darius can still shit on e max nasus, and he also gets the privilege of outscaling nasus.

Abishai 771 votes

darius is just darius

Blue Collar Bear1 votes

He's arguably a very safe pick in both solo queue and amateur competitive. I doubt he'll see play in professional play, since he can be countered quite easily. If you're playing top lane, he's definitely worth putting a couple hundred games into.

l Helios l1 votes

Only problem Darius has ever really had is that he's a noob stomper, but his Q being designed the way it is offers a lot of interaction between players, which is good.

I think Darius is solid early and mid game, but can get outclassed late game, which is okay imo. Since he procs CotC so reliably, he can get a nice shield which has enhanced him at all stages of the game, especially late since it scales really well, and since that's the area where Darius can struggle, you have a winning scenario.

If he needs to be buffed, buff passive damage.

If he needs to be nerfed, raise mana cost on Q.

I don't feel like he needs a lot of work, but I have my on quips about Q's power budget.

JafarThePanda1 votes

The only broken parts of darius are his Q heals and ultimate.

If you can actually hit your Q at the right position, and stack so your ult does the damage it's supposed to otherwise it does practically nothing against someone with armor.

People tend to forget that when bringing him up as "OP"

The only stupid part of him (not broken, because this is completely avoidable and is a cheese tactic) is if you take W ignite level 1 and level 1 someone dumb enough to try to level 1 first blood that isn't Fiora

TequilaZombie1 votes

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If you can actually hit your Q at the right position, and stack so your ult does the damage it's supposed to otherwise it does practically nothing against someone with armor.

Are you implying that Armor reduces Darius' ult damage? Because regardless of stacks, it's always true damage.

JafarThePanda1 votes

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Are you implying that Armor reduces Darius' ult damage? Because regardless of stacks, it's always true damage.

"stack so your ult does the damage it's supposed to otherwise it does practically nothing against someone with armor." you implying you can't read?

Kitten Cowboy1 votes

If you're playing against an evenly skilled opponent it can definitely be a challenge to build those stacks without dying in the middle of your ult cast.

TequilaZombie2 votes

"otherwise it does practically nothing against someone with armor."

That kinda implies that armor does anything to his ult. Granted, english is not my primary language, so there might have been a mistake. As far as I can understand, the "it" refers to the ult, not to the rest of Darius kit or Q (which is mentioned earlier) or even Darius himself. In which case, armor is completely irrelevant to the damage dealt.

JafarThePanda1 votes

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"otherwise it does practically nothing against someone with armor."

That kinda implies that armor does anything to his ult. Granted, english is not my primary language, so there might have been a mistake. As far as I can understand, the "it" refers to the ult, not to the rest of Darius kit or Q (which is mentioned earlier) or even Darius himself. In which case, armor is completely irrelevant to the damage dealt.

you did not read obviously.

Darius's ult does true damage, if stacked fully. Read that again. If you try to ult pre-emptively before 5 stacks, it does an abysmally small amount of AD, which at this point has to be calculated against armor, because that's how things work.

Tychusfindlay9193 votes

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you did not read obviously.

Darius's ult does true damage, if stacked fully. Read that again. If you try to ult pre-emptively before 5 stacks, it does an abysmally small amount of AD, which at this point has to be calculated against armor, because that's how things work.

Hey you fucking idiot its always true damage no matter what.

  • a 500,000+ mastery darius main
TequilaZombie1 votes

Thanks for clarifying. For a second I was worried that my english was just THAT bad. I'm glad he's just assuming he knows stuff when he doesn't.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Thanks for clarifying. For a second I was worried that my english was just THAT bad. I'm glad he's just assuming he knows stuff when he doesn't.

That other guy is a total goon, just ignore him if he keeps spewing this nonsense.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

If you QQ about darius you're either

  1. Bronze 5 0 lp

  2. Trash

  3. You need a pill of git gud

Fatalitý1 votes

I play top a lot and I hate Darius. He isn't op or broken he's just annoying af to play against. The only top laner that can duel with him early is Pantheon and Trundle when he hits 6 and even then Darius can still win. The main thing I hate about him is the heal on his Q. So irritating to deal with. I think he's in an ok spot right now I really hope they don't buff him because when he is meta it is very annoying.

JafarThePanda1 votes

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I play top a lot and I hate Darius. He isn't op or broken he's just annoying af to play against. The only top laner that can duel with him early is Pantheon and Trundle when he hits 6 and even then Darius can still win. The main thing I hate about him is the heal on his Q. So irritating to deal with. I think he's in an ok spot right now I really hope they don't buff him because when he is meta it is very annoying.

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nlong1 votes

He's alright. He's really strong early on but if you can kite or have range, you can shut him down

WhaiiSoSerious1 votes

Broken as always.

xxxDogmanxxx1 votes

I think he's pretty balanced, maybe a little on the stronger side. Kiting him is relatively easy, so he deserves his high damage. Maybe a slight cooldown nerf on him wouldn't be unwarranted.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

Probably not broken but I still HATE playing against a Darius. His E is probably the biggest offender, a juggernaut is supposed to have no way to get to his target and no hard CC in exchange for huge damage and tankiness, but Darius can just insta pull all your team to him.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

Please don't max W second.

Unless you're playing Darius against me.

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