I'm an avid Zyra player in both mid and support, and although she's very off-meta at the moment, I still play her to some success.
Aside from the obvious "Immobile in mid so sucks" are there any finer points that people would like to make about her current situation? I feel that support wise, she's pretty alright, although probably outclassed by stronger meta picks. (Not by much mind you).
darkdill2 votesI think Zyra's ultimate should do more for her plants than just increase their attack speed. It should also make them invulnerable or something like that so they can reliably deal damage rather than get sniped by AOE.
Hasztalan22 votesShe is flat out useless in 2015. Mediocre dmg, 0 pressure, her zoning has been nerfed so hard that everyone just ignores the plants. Her cc is flat out bad, very telegraphed and ez to dodge.
She needs major buffs.
Cupidly1 votesI agree. God, what's up with these people who think she is "balanced"? Are you out of your mind? Stop saying rubbish to deter Zyra from getting a buff. She can't zone anymore, are you kidding me? Have you seen the damage her plants do as support. It's laughable. Her AoE root--a joke. The thing moves as fast as a dead fly. You try landing that root on Kalista, Vayne or Lucian. Have fun wasting your mana and getting frustrated. She has no pressure in lane, and barely any presence at all. She's slow, squishy, just outright weak right now. But, guess what, she'll stay this way and Riot wont do anything to fix it. Sad but honest reality. Anyone who says otherwise, you can just disregard them as they are irrelevant and have no idea what they're saying. That is all.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesshe has godlike damage (just needed to correct you, she is not bursty but at the end of the game she does a load for her team)
but yeah she pays too much for it , burst is better than sustained dmg anyway, so she gets rekt
not to mention the passive, whatever it is meant to be ... and for whatever reason its so clunky
Hasztalan21 votes[{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ufJK8zGE,comment-id=00090001,timestamp=2015-04-25T11:13:23.968+0000)
she has godlike damage (just needed to correct you, she is not bursty but at the end of the game she does a load for her team)
but yeah she pays too much for it , burst is better than sustained dmg anyway, so she gets rekt
not to mention the passive, whatever it is meant to be ... and for whatever reason its so clunky
she has 0 dmg. All of her dmg gets evaded and even if she lands lots of Q's they don't hurt anything. Hell currently she is one of the few mages (!!MAGE!!) who can't even 100-0 an adc champion. That's pathetic.
Knight SoIaire 1 votestell that to the end game screen
zura is similar to azir in this way she doesnt just remowe people but she deals cosntant damage through the plants and skill spam, in the end she does a load
Hasztalan21 votes[{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ufJK8zGE,comment-id=0009000100000000,timestamp=2015-04-26T15:37:00.684+0000)
tell that to the end game screen
zura is similar to azir in this way she doesnt just remowe people but she deals cosntant damage through the plants and skill spam, in the end she does a load
Tell that to endgame screen where 70% of zyra's damage is the lame dot from laindry and nothing else. Her poke is abysmal usually lifestealed/spellvamped back nonstop on the incoming minion waves. Her ACTUAL damage is pathetic.
Sir Yamazuki1 votesTell that to endgame screen where 70% of zyra's damage is the lame dot from laindry and nothing else. Her poke is abysmal usually lifestealed/spellvamped back nonstop on the incoming minion waves. Her ACTUAL damage is pathetic.
5th mid-> http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=Middle&sortBy=general.totalDamageDealtToChampions&order=descend 3rd sup-> http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=Support&sortBy=general.totalDamageDealtToChampions&order=descend
Easily kills squishier targets by herself even when put in support, where she gets 0 farm. She not only can burst a single target, but in actual fights she can easily hit multiple targets. You saying "all her damage is avoidable" is silly. Any champion that has abilities that isn't 100% targeted suffers from this. League isn't a 1v1 game, you aren't picking Zyra to 1v1, you are picking her to win fights with the team, and she does just that perfectly fine.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesbut still its a FACT
she pays too hard for that
she has no escape and no reliable cc, those are normal weaknesses for a champion like her thou
yet why does she get to have abysmally low hp on top of it ?
she could use a buff, or some form of ballancing her survivability/damage output so she can actualy make good use of it instead of just avoiding being blown out like a candle
DisasterSola1 votesInb4 certainlyT champ OP because CT is worst designer. (Sarcasm. I personally think CT makes rather fun champions who need number changes to be balanced.)
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesShe needs a better passive. I heard someone's suggestion of "Jungle's Vines" or what not, where her Snare is unaffected by Tenacity.
Bleediss1 votesShe's not fit for this meta, end of story.
Trying to talk about her balance situation in probably the worst meta for her isn't too great.
However, she's still really good against low mobility team comps, and a great support against Draven, Jinx, etc.
Still, her abilities are fine and provide great usefulness as she has a unique design of plants.
And her passive, as many people say is bad, it really isn't, the only issue is that it only provides usefulness if there's someone there to take that true damage and make use of it or you can kill off people, so that's sort of up to how everything plays out.
Teridax681 votes
is amazing at laying down zone control, and has a substantial amount of CC (she can lay down multiple slows, along with an AoE root and the largest knockup in the game). My main gripe with her is that she's stuck halfway between her plant mage fantasy and that of a more generic burst mage: she started out even farther on the bursty end of the scale, but received significant nerfs, so now she has middling burst damage despite having a burst combo (EQR). I think her plants need to be made a lot more important, even if it comes at the cost of her more standard abilities. Design-wise, I think she's more of a mage who can support (in the same vein as 
or 
) than a true mage/support hybrid, but I still think having her focus more on her plants would allow her to be better at both roles: her core strength right now is her zoning power, I feel, and more powerful plants means she'd be much better at setting up zones of influence for her allies.
Leti the Yeti1 votesher concept art is hawt
das al she got going for her in muh eyez
Salidfingers1 votesI play Zyra a lot as a support and i find that i am rarely countered.
Only 2 things bot lane scare me.
Sona w/ the right runes and masteries
Morgana + Sivir Combo. Morgana alone is worthless.
I always face blitz, Leona, janna, and thresh bot lane. They are all jokes to me unless my adc gets caught.
Godhri1 votesI was a very avid Zyra player in the previous season and in the beginning of this season. I like her current mid lane and support situation, but I feel her plants are too weak and therefore do not justify her low base value damage on her spells. Yes her plants do damage but most mid lane champs clear her plants so easily that sometimes those plants don't even get off a single attack if timed correctly.
Stonington1 votesI just posted this in the other Zyra thread, but it's worth mentioning again. They screwed up her plants' AI when they gave her range indicators. They're just not as reliable for farming or attacking the enemy like they used to be. They just derp now.
