Maybe it's new items, maybe it's the meta shift, maybe I'm fed, but I've been playing Ahri for a long ass time now and I'm 95% positive this is excessive. Aside from Ryze I think she's the best mid in the game atm.
P.S. that's 3 items; Luden's, Dcap, and a fully charged Spellbinder.
VvVVvV6 votesEvery kill had 3 or more team members involved with you getting the kill...it would be different if these were solo.
Like Akali for example. Now that champ is busted rn.
Rins Thigh Socks1 votesEvery kill had 3 or more team members involved with you getting the kill...it would be different if these were solo.
Like Akali for example. Now that champ is busted rn.
Look again. I did 100% of the lifebar of Xayah and most of Rengar's (he was still at a good ~1300 health before I jumped him).
Professor Ward1 votesEvery kill had 3 or more team members involved with you getting the kill...it would be different if these were solo.
Like Akali for example. Now that champ is busted rn.
not true at all, i 100% just watched xayah get killed in one cast of q
2Charmnot2Charm2 votesAhri is 4 levels ahead of xayah and she also hit charm on her which has a .6 ap ratio.
Professor Ward1 votesAhri is 4 levels ahead of xayah and she also hit charm on her which has a .6 ap ratio.
i had to enlarge to notice the charm, my mistake i thought this was from a q alone.
Revali4 votesTwo words
You're fed.
Muzét4 votesI don't even need to look at the builds. All I see is: • Blue Team underleveled. EVERYONE. Compared to Ahri. → Blue team's average level: 14 (13.8); Ahri's level 17. →→ And since she's the highest of the whole game I'm guessing she's fed.
So yeah even an Ahri fed can deal damage. How unexpected!
Rexxiee3 votesIts the items.
Every single mage got stronger with those, Ryze is actually almost at 50% wr in solo q, so in competitive hes probably going to be 200% ban.
Its ok tho, boards still saying the item changes were nerfs LMAO.
Jmman1 votescorrection fiddle didn't get stronger. CERTAIN champs got a lot stronger. other stayed the same or maybe slightly better.
Khristophoros1 votesIts the items.
Every single mage got stronger with those, Ryze is actually almost at 50% wr in solo q, so in competitive hes probably going to be 200% ban.
Its ok tho, boards still saying the item changes were nerfs LMAO.
Ryze's best item got 20% CDR added to it
I haven't noticed any difference for Vel'Koz which is my main. If anything it's harder to choose which items to get because now Luden's and Hextech GLP conflict sorta. IDK maybe giving up 10% CDR is worth it.
Ahri Baka3 votesDo you realize that you were level 17 and
Rengar was level 14 ?
Xayah 13 ?
Blitz 12 ?
and do you realize that any other fed champion can do it better ?
Besides your build was full ap
Usually we go for Magic Pen and 
Rins Thigh Socks1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-02-28T22:27:45.060+0000)
Usually we go for Magic Pen and
And usually we don't take the advice of EUNE players who run barrier on assassins
Ahri Baka1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-02-28T22:29:00.532+0000)
And usually we don't take the advice of EUNE players who run barrier on assassins
Actually it's funny how not only rank shaming exists for people like you , but Server shaming too , your reasoning was stupid you know , I played a lot of matches and never seem Assassins with Barrier try something else, I guess
Rins Thigh Socks1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T22:34:29.841+0000)
Actually it's funny how not only rank shaming exists for people like you , but Server shaming too
¯_(ツ)_/¯ don't get passive aggressive about how to play the game properly and I won't tell you how to play the game properly.
I played a lot of matches and never seem Assassins with Barrier try something else, I guess
Or you could try ignite.
Ahri Baka1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T22:41:05.520+0000)
¯_(ツ)_/¯ don't get passive aggressive about how to play the game properly and I won't tell you how to play the game properly.
Or you could try ignite.
Ignite isn't bad , but in the first place she might be partly an assassin , but I still play her as a mage who does AOE Damage for long fights , if I'm going to a match where I know my teammates are going to be useless , I'll surely take barrier , assassins are very popular in my elo so it would be a joke to take Ignite
2Charmnot2Charm2 votesShe is busted, which is a good time for riot to remove more of her safety.
Doubt it's gonna go well since ricklessabandon.
Edit: wait those guys are heavily under leveled lmfao
wildfox992 votesor maybe because you were insanely feed,and since now we are used to see an ahri 15/0 barely get half of your HP bar (hyperbole) now it seems strange seeing her dealing some damage
you literally builded full glasscannon with 3 pure damage items (spellbinder was even full stacked as you said),you were 8/1/10 with 290 CS,just look at your lvl,17 with 820AP while enemy ADC was lvl 13 and probably lost her lane (vayne was a bit fed and had more XP)
i mean,what do you expect? i think every champ would be "boosted" when that ahead
edit: the damage wasn't even that high,as i said enemy bot was behind but look the damage on viktor (anyway 2 levels behind),Q R W wasn't enought for killing him,while many other champions would have deleted him even with 2 abilities,i'm not saying ahri didn't get stronger with this item update (btw like any other mage) but actually she's not broken
edit 2 : the only thing that might be really broken is 
giving 200AP + 40% ms for 2800g,played it with syndra with a stacked 
,RIP R -> oneshoot ADC meme,i could oneshoot directly their tank
Rins Thigh Socks1 votesor maybe because you were insanely feed,and since now we are used to see an ahri 15/0 barely get half of your HP bar (hyperbole) now it seems strange seeing her dealing some damage
you literally builded full glasscannon with 3 pure damage items (spellbinder was even full stacked as you said),you were 8/1/10 with 290 CS,just look at your lvl,17 with 820AP while enemy ADC was lvl 13 and probably lost her lane (vayne was a bit fed and had more XP)
i mean,what do you expect? i think every champ would be "boosted" when that ahead
edit: the damagewasn't even that high,as i said enemy bot was behind but look the damage on viktor (anyway 2 levels behind),Q R W wasn't enought for killing him,while many other champions would have deleted him even with 2 abilities,i'm not saying ahri didn't get stronger with this item update (btw like any other mage) but actually she's not broken
*5/1/8 until that fight.
Also, is it really fair to say that I didn't do any damage to Viktor when I popped him from 1700 to 500 health through a 200 hp shield? (He gets a lot of health back through Redemption)
This is also after my Spellbinder wore off and I used my Electrocute and 100-0'd 2 champions in a row.
wildfox991 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-02-28T21:07:55.885+0000)
*5/1/8 until that fight.
Also, is it really fair to say that I didn't do any damage to Viktor when I popped him from 1700 to 500 health through a 200 hp shield? (He gets a lot of health back through Redemption)
This is also after my Spellbinder wore off and I used my Electrocute and 100-0'd 2 champions in a row.
my point was,almost any mid laner can do that when that ahead,it's just that ahri after her nerfs didn't deal enought damage for snowballing,but now that every AP got buffed you notice her damage
again with syndra,ekko or any other mage/assassin i could do exatly the same as you did if not more
what's wrong with a champion dealing damage whe ahead? there would be a problem if you could do that while not fed
Professor Ward1 votesmy point was,almost any mid laner can do that when that ahead,it's just that ahri after her nerfs didn't deal enought damage for snowballing,but now that every AP got buffed you notice her damage
again with syndra,ekko or any other mage/assassin i could do exatly the same as you did if not more
what's wrong with a champion dealing damage whe ahead? there would be a problem if you could do that while not fed
i cant think of a single midlaner that wouldve killed xayah in one cast of q
wildfox991 votes[{quoted}](name=Professor Ward,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:02:40.550+0000)
i cant think of a single midlaner that wouldve killed xayah in one cast of q
(jk)
she Q > E > luden > electrocute,that's almost all the damage she have since her W and R have respectively 30% and 25% AP scaling
again,every burst champion can oneshoot when that fed
MakaiTiger2 votesAhri's also multiple levels ahead of the people she burst and the people close to her in level were the ones who didn't die so easily. She's just ahead, that's all there is to it.
Ahristocats2 voteslooking at her win rate she spiked in last patch
don't think she's broken, just stronger as the others said you're quite fed i saw a lot of ahris who did well too
i think she's stronger luden is really good with her, but don't think she's broken
Yenn1 votes? ? ?
You have 682 AP without Spellbinder active, do you want to take a stab at the math on how much AP you should have with those three items? This is likely a bug.
EDIT: Jk didn't notice Baron. Still seems off though. You have around 500 AP after masteries and Deathcap, without Baron. Baron isn't adding ~180 AP, maybe 80 AP max. Where is the other 100 AP coming from?
Rins Thigh Socks1 votes? ? ?
You have 682 AP without Spellbinder active, do you want to take a stab at the math on how much AP you should have with those three items? This is likely a bug.
EDIT: Jk didn't notice Baron. Still seems off though. You have around 500 AP after masteries and Deathcap, without Baron. Baron isn't adding ~180 AP, maybe 80 AP max. Where is the other 100 AP coming from?
(30 AP Eyeballs + 18 AP Sorcery passive + let's say 20 from Celerity + 15 Doran's + 90 Luden's + 100 Spellbinder + 120 Dcap + 40 Baron + 50 Elixir) * Dcap Passive = 676.2 AP. Then another 140 from Dcapped Spellbinder passive.
Math roughly checks out
If they're gonna nerf her they should remove her self heal. I never understood why an assassin/mage with a lot of safety should have built-in sustain too.
You always have bad suggestions. How does that help with what she does when she one shots you? It doesn't do anything. It just makes Ahri feast or famine because there are no levers to keep her in the game if she falls behind so she either gets really far ahead or doesn't do anything.
If we go along the same vein of thought, you could try removing Q MS and even that would be far better because there's little thought required in using it.
Khristophoros1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T20:50:56.610+0000)
(30 AP Eyeballs + 18 AP Sorcery passive + let's say 20 from Celerity + 15 Doran's + 90 Luden's + 100 Spellbinder + 120 Dcap + 40 Baron + 50 Elixir) * Dcap Passive = 676.2 AP. Then another 140 from Dcapped Spellbinder passive.
Math roughly checks out
You always have bad suggestions. How does that help with what she does when she one shots you? It doesn't do anything. It just makes Ahri feast or famine because there are no levers to keep her in the game if she falls behind so she either gets really far ahead or doesn't do anything.
If we go along the same vein of thought, you could try removing Q MS and even that would be far better because there's little thought required in using it.
Reality check: Other mages don't have healing and most of them don't have mobility. Are they too "feast or famine" for you?
Rins Thigh Socks2 votesReality check: Other mages don't have healing and most of them don't have mobility. Are they too "feast or famine" for you?
No because they have other levers in their kit that protect them from incoming damage including stronger ranged waveclear as well as extremely powerful trading tools.
Do you know how easy it was to trade with Ahri pre-6 as almost any mid pre-5.2? The sustain was vital to her laning as she lost 9/10 matchups until she got 6 and a NLR.
On top of that, it would leave Ahri without a passive, which when she's not good would make her super bad, it requires more thought and putting herself at risk than the Q MS, Ahri's heal has been nerfed multiple times and she's resurfaced almost solely because of her WR combo doing too much damage. But let's keep nerfing the heal because that's DEFINITELY gonna do something eventually.
Maybe before telling me I need a reality check you look up the definition of insanity.
Khristophoros1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T21:34:28.847+0000)
No because they have other levers in their kit that protect them from incoming damage including stronger ranged waveclear as well as extremely powerful trading tools.
Do you know how easy it was to trade with Ahri pre-6 as almost any mid pre-5.2? The sustain was vital to her laning as she lost 9/10 matchups until she got 6 and a NLR.
On top of that, it would leave Ahri without a passive, which when she's not good would make her super bad, it requires more thought and putting herself at risk than the Q MS, Ahri's heal has been nerfed multiple times and she's resurfaced almost solely because of her WR combo doing too much damage. But let's keep nerfing the heal because that's DEFINITELY gonna do something eventually.
Maybe before telling me I need a reality check you look up the definition of insanity.
No you need to stop pretending like she doesn't have any other tools comparable to other mages. She has a speed boost before level 6. She has waveclear. She has hard CC. She has poke. After 6 she has mobility.
Why are you saying "it would leave Ahri without a passive"? are you suggesting that they wouldn't replace it with a new passive? Really are you going to try and make that part of your argument?
Rins Thigh Socks2 votesNo you need to stop pretending like she doesn't have any other tools comparable to other mages. She has a speed boost before level 6. She has waveclear. She has hard CC. She has poke. After 6 she has mobility.
Why are you saying "it would leave Ahri without a passive"? are you suggesting that they wouldn't replace it with a new passive? Really are you going to try and make that part of your argument?
you need to stop pretending like she doesn't have any other tools comparable to other mages
? She doesn't. Her waveclear is on par with Ekko's for like double the mana cost. Her hard CC is very easy to deal with pre-6, and her poke is very predictable and easy to deal with if you know how to play the wave.
I mean, you ended Plat 5 so I don't expect you to know how to play vs. waves, just champions. That's beside the point.
Her trading tools are far worse than that of most champions because she cannot manipulate waves as well as most champions, so she has to wait until her damage spike at level 6 to really come online. Her heal did a great job of making sure she reliably got to level 6 while still saying, "Hey if you want the heal, you need to walk up to the wave and put yourself at risk." Q MS makes her too safe and like I said, even if that was what you chose instead it would be miles better in terms of gameplay than nerfing her heal. But ultimately if her damage spike is too hard and it's getting her too fed, then nerf the damage spike.
And I was exaggerating the without a passive part. Since you're so smart, you know they'd just nerf her heal and leave her like that until she popped up again, and to point to that as the offending part of her kit for a third time since season 3 shows how little you actually know about the champion.
Khristophoros1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-28T22:10:25.412+0000)
? She doesn't. Her waveclear is on par with Ekko's for like double the mana cost. Her hard CC is very easy to deal with pre-6, and her poke is very predictable and easy to deal with if you know how to play the wave.
I mean, you ended Plat 5 so I don't expect you to know how to play vs. waves, just champions. That's beside the point.
Her trading tools are far worse than that of most champions because she cannot manipulate waves as well as most champions, so she has to wait until her damage spike at level 6 to really come online. Her heal did a great job of making sure she reliably got to level 6 while still saying, "Hey if you want the heal, you need to walk up to the wave and put yourself at risk." Q MS makes her too safe and like I said, even if that was what you chose instead it would be miles better in terms of gameplay than nerfing her heal. But ultimately if her damage spike is too hard and it's getting her too fed, then nerf the damage spike.
And I was exaggerating the without a passive part. Since you're so smart, you know they'd just nerf her heal and leave her like that until she popped up again, and to point to that as the offending part of her kit for a third time since season 3 shows how little you actually know about the champion.
They can easily add a little more waveclear or switch the heal to a mana sustain thing
What they should do is streamline the kit so it doesn't have strengths all over the place that end up getting nerfed until they're all unsatisfying. That means get rid of the damn heal and bring up a strength that aligns with her kit better.
Professor Ward1 votesThey can easily add a little more waveclear or switch the heal to a mana sustain thing
What they should do is streamline the kit so it doesn't have strengths all over the place that end up getting nerfed until they're all unsatisfying. That means get rid of the damn heal and bring up a strength that aligns with her kit better.
Now this 100% makes sense, make it mana sustain.
Professor Ward1 votesNo you need to stop pretending like she doesn't have any other tools comparable to other mages. She has a speed boost before level 6. She has waveclear. She has hard CC. She has poke. After 6 she has mobility.
Why are you saying "it would leave Ahri without a passive"? are you suggesting that they wouldn't replace it with a new passive? Really are you going to try and make that part of your argument?
if i were an ahri main, seeing as how 95% of your plays happen at full or greater than 70% health, i would be willing to take anything over her current passive, the healing is not that great for what it is outside of extremely early.
Khristophoros2 votes[{quoted}](name=Professor Ward,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uXhaR2Um,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-02-28T23:18:15.394+0000)
if i were an ahri main, seeing as how 95% of your plays happen at full or greater than 70% health, i would be willing to take anything over her current passive, the healing is not that great for what it is outside of extremely early.
Yeah I don't see why Ahri players are so attached to the heal. It doesn't help you make plays, it just makes laning easier. Also it's been nerfed to the point that it feels like it doesn't do anything. But it actually does make her laning significantly better it's just one of those invisible power things. Also it has 0 skill expression.
wildfox991 votesReality check: Other mages don't have healing and most of them don't have mobility. Are they too "feast or famine" for you?
they all have more damage,CC,utility,range,AoE,self peel (orianna's and syndra's E are some examples) or whatever that makes them unique,it's like saying that sivir is broken because she's the only ADC with a spellshield,it makes no sense,it's just one of her characteristic that other champions doesn't have and that makes her unique (unless all champions of X role would be the same)
Khristophoros1 votesthey all have more damage,CC,utility,range,AoE,self peel (orianna's and syndra's E are some examples) or whatever that makes them unique,it's like saying that sivir is broken because she's the only ADC with a spellshield,it makes no sense,it's just one of her characteristic that other champions doesn't have and that makes her unique (unless all champions of X role would be the same)
Ahri mains: "Wow Ahri is so OP now and she 1 shots people. Just look at this clip!"
Also Ahri mains: "Other mages deal more damage so she NEEDS her heal"
Professor Ward1 votesReality check: Other mages don't have healing and most of them don't have mobility. Are they too "feast or famine" for you?
most mages have mana sustain and some sort of shield, we can name what people have and dont all day, it doesnt do much.
Khristophoros1 votes? ? ?
You have 682 AP without Spellbinder active, do you want to take a stab at the math on how much AP you should have with those three items? This is likely a bug.
EDIT: Jk didn't notice Baron. Still seems off though. You have around 500 AP after masteries and Deathcap, without Baron. Baron isn't adding ~180 AP, maybe 80 AP max. Where is the other 100 AP coming from?
Base AP from items: Doran's Ring: 15 Elixer of Sorcery: 50 Luden's: 90 Spellbinder: 100 Deathcap: 120 Total from items: 375
Baron @ 28 min: 55
Runes: The Aether Blade (Domination + Sorcery): 18 Celerity (At the start of the clip Ahri has 446 MS which is 116 bonus over her base of 330. 8% of 116): 9.28 Eyeball Collection: 30
Total before Deathcap passive: 487.28 Total with Deathcap passive: 487.28 * 1.4 = 682.1919999999999
nm10101 votesAhri loves 2 things:
Lots of AP
and
Base damage + ratio items
Luden's rush + spellbinder and/or Dcap is basically her ideal build. The fact that all 3 were either buffed or introduced this patch was just a huge boon for Ahri.
Khristophoros1 votesIf they're gonna nerf her they should remove her self heal. I never understood why an assassin/mage with a lot of safety should have built-in sustain too.
Der Lindwurm1 votesWe need a strong fox to mix things up a bit more in mid lane.