Little tip for all people that use Scanner/control Wards...

UniSect·Apr 23, 2019·10 votes·7,606 views

When you play a game, and you run a scanner/control ward as a support, assassin, tank... let me tell you a little advice:

STOP TRYING TO LAST HIT THE WARD

If you know, anyone who reveals a ward with their own item, they get the gold no matter who destroys it. The one that destroys the ward also gets the gold. You reveal the ward, team destroys it, both get gold. Dont waste your time destroying it and allow your team to destroy it for you. Don't know if it works for Duskblade.

15 Comments

Ozzie StormApr 23, 20197 votes

that's a 1st to me, nice advice

nelogisApr 24, 20194 votes

It's called Pink Ward

Also it's not about the gold it's about sending a message

SaezioApr 23, 20193 votes

Well, the gold is shared between the 2 I believe(the one scanning and the one lasthitting), i don't think both get 30g.

But supports should never lasthit wards for the same reason they don't last hit creeps.... The gold is better on the carry

Silly NeekoApr 23, 20193 votes

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Well, the gold is shared between the 2 I believe(the one scanning and the one lasthitting), i don't think both get 30g.

But supports should never lasthit wards for the same reason they don't last hit creeps.... The gold is better on the carry

Actually it is 10 either way unless it is a control ward. So the 10 gold is actually doubled.

SaezioApr 23, 20191 votes

Wait, I thought that was only for trinket wards and not support item wards. Haven't payed much attention to SR lately though.

So if someone kills a trinket/support item ward solo they get 10g only?

Silly NeekoApr 23, 20191 votes

If i do remember correctly since they are both the exact same. Same as the green wards you get from Klepto.

The only change in gold for wards is the control ward.

King MugiwaraApr 23, 20192 votes

Hell nah. As a support main if I am working on the map, I get the ward, you get plenty of gold doing your own things instead of actively trying to deprive the quite likely already behind in gold supp and level supp. Especially for those nomad adcs that aren't where they should be and "almost" forcing the support to not be with them in contrast to defend towers and riskily lighting up objectives by ourselves for what we predict to soon be brawl area.

SaezioApr 23, 20191 votes

Here is a question. In this case, are you also getting the CS? What's the difference in getting gold from a ward or from a minion? Gold is better on carries, doesn't matter where it comes from. Unless you think you can better utilise the gold than your carry (in which case you should also be getting the CS for the benefit of the team) you should let the last hit to them.

I say this as someone that only plays support.

MankeyMadnessApr 24, 20191 votes

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Here is a question. In this case, are you also getting the CS? What's the difference in getting gold from a ward or from a minion? Gold is better on carries, doesn't matter where it comes from. Unless you think you can better utilise the gold than your carry (in which case you should also be getting the CS for the benefit of the team) you should let the last hit to them.

I say this as someone that only plays support.

Wards arent standing gold. If you have a blitz support who can clear a few Zyra plants youre not going to.hollar that they took 5g from you. It doesn't matter whos standing on Reksais tunnels.

Supports and ADCs in tandem clearing wards is faster than doing it solo and nets more gold.

SaezioApr 24, 20191 votes

I am not saying to risk something in order for the ADC to maybe get the gold. I mean when you find a control ward in the bush, and your adc is next to you, let them get the final hit. Especially with sweeper, so you can sweep a larger area instead of sitting in the same spot spending valuable sweeper uptime.. And of course you should clear plants and tunels asap..

All i am saying is, supports shouldn't feel like they need to get the gold from killing wards because they are supports. Same as if a whole team rotates to get a plating in a lane, it doesn't mean the mid/top/adc should be gifted the local gold "because it's their lane", instead the gold should be given to the person that will make the most out of it regardless if it's their lane or not. (obviously when there is no risk involved)

Silly NeekoApr 23, 20192 votes

It does work for duskblade too, but not the scrying bloom. The problem is most ADCs etc do not understand that they can do that. So I end up just taking the ward.

Also, while it is helpful for the ADC to get the extra gold, supports still can use gold too. Quite often the support items are 100% just as helpful as the ADCs items especially mid to late game unless the ADC is 1 shotting everyone (which a few hundred extra gold at most through the ENTIRE game is not going to do) then that extra gold that could mean having Redemption, Mikeals Crucible, or Locket of the Iron Solari would be an entire fight changer. Having a bit of extra damage is not going to be as massive of a boost. Period.

So while I do agree that the ADC can take the wards when revealed by me when i ever do run scanner/control.... the control wards should be for the support unless the support shows no desire or is not there to take it.

RikirieApr 24, 20191 votes

Wait what

spinxerApr 24, 20191 votes

welp there was one time where i played with a friend and while clearing a ward he hit it while i was hitting it to, and he left it for me to last hit and told me it was for my vision score stat. so he probably meant that killing the ward was better for the support due to vision score, although i dont know if both get vision score despite who kills it.

hrooza dota Apr 24, 20191 votes

excuse me but you need to improve your damage against wards Pyke item 3147

Anu3isIIApr 24, 20191 votes

The thing about Duskblade is that if you are melee, you one-shot the ward. Moreover, I would argue that some Assassins would take the new version of Zombie Ward (Domination Rune) which gives them Adaptive stats per Ward Takedown (idk if it works without last-hitting).

I agree with the other roles tho, it would be faster to let the ADC clear them while you keep walking to scan.