STOP BEING SO DAMN COCKY RIOT!

Cobra1066·Jun 2, 2016·28 votes·1,024 views

The problem with the whole DQ system is that riot won't revert asthey never do. Its like their scared that one revert will make the playerbase more angry Riot I don't hate you or many of the decisions you make(hextech protobelt is awesome) but your problem is that you never ever revert a change even if most people think its bad. Even something like revertng Fiora's new splash art which you even admitted was universally seen as ugly. I think you should look to your own past and realize that reverting a bad change can be good. For example when lee sin's ward hop was removed the community was fustrated and you reverted the change. To this day lee sin is the most popular jg and in a large part due to the ability to ward hop which lee sin players love and i do think must be very rewarding to learn. Just revert DQ to solo and keep the new champ select which is pretty popular(at least in terms of role selection). Give your players what you want over your ego. I know its tough to abandon something that you worked on a lot but sometimes things in life don't turn out like we expect them to.:)

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KillerKellJun 2, 20162 votes

Why would they revert?

They just said more people have started to play Ranked now than before.

More. That's Growth.

Companies value Growth.

Dynamic Queue didn't fail. In fact, it dropped Toxicity to historic lows while expanding the Ranked Player Base... despite the Flaws that it DOES have, and despite a small group of people saying they are the 'majority' all the time.

The numbers don't lie. Toxicity has dropped, more people are playing Ranked.

In business, that's called Success... even if it's coming with some bumps and bruises that they are trying to work on.

Lady HammerlockJun 2, 20161 votes

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Why would they revert?

They just said more people have started to play Ranked now than before.

More. That's Growth.

Companies value Growth.

Dynamic Queue didn't fail. In fact, it dropped Toxicity to historic lows while expanding the Ranked Player Base... despite the Flaws that it DOES have, and despite a small group of people saying they are the 'majority' all the time.

The numbers don't lie. Toxicity has dropped, more people are playing Ranked.

In business, that's called Success... even if it's coming with some bumps and bruises that they are trying to work on.

And anyways the NA boards are a vocal minority

FovereJun 2, 20164 votes

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Why would they revert?

They just said more people have started to play Ranked now than before.

More. That's Growth.

Companies value Growth.

Dynamic Queue didn't fail. In fact, it dropped Toxicity to historic lows while expanding the Ranked Player Base... despite the Flaws that it DOES have, and despite a small group of people saying they are the 'majority' all the time.

The numbers don't lie. Toxicity has dropped, more people are playing Ranked.

In business, that's called Success... even if it's coming with some bumps and bruises that they are trying to work on.

More does not equal growth.

More people playing ranked. Not more players overall. Not even more playing ranked as a primary game mode. More people are willing to try ranked now. Well of course they are, they get to do it with friends.

That doesn't speak to the health of ranked gameplay, the quality of the games, or any of the other issues people raise. If anything, it reinforces it. The goal shouldn't be to get more people playing ranked, unless its a byproduct of simply creating better players.

Toxicity at historic lows? What does that even mean?

How do they define toxicity? We don't know. We do know they only really enforce chat-related issues, which is just one small part of "toxicity". There's quite a lot of toxicity out there that doesn't even break RoC.

All that really says is people who are friends aren't as rude to each other. Well, yeah. Who cares. That doesn't lead to a healthier gaming environment either. It's just stating the obvious.

There are certain realities that Riot is pretending doesn't exist here. Playing with friends is not how this game was meant to be played. It's not "teamwork". Teamwork is a team, 5 players. Not 2/3/4. Either you have solo players or 5 man teams. There's no middle ground that doesn't create unhealthy dynamics between the groups of players and the solos that are all forced on the same team.

Pretending that DQ somehow promotes teamwork is ridiculous. What we should have gotten were tools to encourage and facilitate 5 man teams. That makes sense. Have a club ranked queue, like the old 5x but perhaps with more relaxed rosters and rules. You still only earn Elo/LP for the games you play rather than just being on the roster, as with the old team ranked. This would be healthy and encourage people to interact a lot more, while giving a little more legitimacy to the ranked teams, since you actually have to play games to gain rank.

Cobra1066Jun 2, 20161 votes

Couldn't have said it better myself.:)

Nik NikersonJun 3, 20161 votes

And who decides how the game is meant to be played? You feel solo queue is the "right" way to play because that's how it's been in the past. But that doesn't make it the "right" way. It just makes it the previous way.

And last time I checked, the old ranked system allowed people to duo. So I guess the old system as well was an invalid, broken system that created unhealthy dynamics.

Subject 5Jun 3, 20161 votes

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Why would they revert?

They just said more people have started to play Ranked now than before.

More. That's Growth.

Companies value Growth.

Dynamic Queue didn't fail. In fact, it dropped Toxicity to historic lows while expanding the Ranked Player Base... despite the Flaws that it DOES have, and despite a small group of people saying they are the 'majority' all the time.

The numbers don't lie. Toxicity has dropped, more people are playing Ranked.

In business, that's called Success... even if it's coming with some bumps and bruises that they are trying to work on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI

No but seriously, you should learn what grown means in a business world.

KillerKellJun 4, 20161 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI

No but seriously, you should learn what grown means in a business world.

Ranked Player Base grew. That's Growth.

It's the Ranked Player Base that they will be using to be attractive to Networks, who need those strong Growth Numbers to elicit large investments from Advertisers.

You do realize, while we will never lose the Streaming and On Line Content... that ESports as an Industry is moving to Televised Content, right?

You do realize the actual reason for this move was to bring more Players into Ranked overall, giving a larger Talent Pool from which to farm system future Professionals, who will be the key to Advertising dollars. A Secondary was to lessen Toxicity so New Viewers won't be turned away by characters like Tyler1 in Matches they watch.

I know Riot tells us it's about Playing with Friends... but the fact is, for almost 7 Months now there has been an on-going Shift in the Industry.

You should listen to Kevin Knocke on IGN Sirius Radio, he could clue you in on some things.

So for the time being, the only 'growth' Riot cares about is the swelling of Ranked Players. Which they are getting. The inflow is more than the outflow.

That is Growth, no matter how you slice it.

More Players plus More Viewers equals Growth.

BloodyTomponJun 2, 20162 votes

Velkoz

Eevee In A JarJun 2, 20162 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcjh5ex2b30

Attack on Vel'koz

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 2, 20161 votes

they revert stuff people don't like sometimes.

Just not in response to shitty arguments like this one

Weiner the PoohJun 2, 20161 votes

To be fair, they did fix the fiora splash art, so there is that.

NarvuntienJun 2, 20161 votes

They can't revert the DQ and not the champ select, the champ select only works because of the DQ

The DeckownerJun 2, 20161 votes

the champ select has nothing to do with DQ, during pre season there was even a few days when DQ was down but champ select was up with solo queue.

Eevee In A JarJun 2, 20161 votes

Rank worked fine without the new champ select. TBH the new champ select does nothing but make players complacent and make average players degenerative players who can only play their mains and primaries.

SpookyNeedleJun 2, 20161 votes

Im not sure whether Lee is the most popular jg right now, also, there are more champs that can ward hop. So why aren't they more popular?

Cobra1066Jun 2, 20161 votes

He still is the most popular according to op.gg. It's not about just ward hopping, its that ward hoping makes moves like the insec so much better. Just watch Dardoch in the lcs to see the crazy plays he can do with ward hopping.

Eevee In A JarJun 2, 20161 votes

Out of all ward hopping champions, Lee is the only one that power spikes at the beginning of the game and can snowball himself ahead of everyone else. Since he's got the mobility and the kit to back up play-making mechanics, Lee can efficiently use that early lead to try to contain the game before opponent's late game comes. Thus the always popular saying "Lee falls off" yet he still carries a good amount of games and seemingly do infinite damage in these games they carry.

Also on top of ward hopping, Lee also has another movement ability that's got more range than his w.