Elise is an ap jungler and not a tank, although she needs some toning down right now can we just revert her cocoon stun duration or a few other base stats? Its no fun to build her bruiser/tank as the old crappy Elise.:)
67chrome4 votesElise is an ap jungler and not a tank
Tank is an archetype, AP is not. You're comparing apples to the color green with this. Just because Elise fits one doesn't exclude her form doing the other, and having AP scaling doesn't mean you should go glass-cannon.
Also - Elise is largely a fighter, getting a mix of both AP and defensive items. And she very much has a fighters kit.
If you look at fighters, the common trend is they get amazing damage through bases, and a lot of mixed damage that's difficult to counter-build: a combination of physical, magical, auto-attack, and ability damage. Often with %HP, True, or armor/mpen steroids thrown in the mix.
This lets them build defense without having to worry about a squishy hard-countering them with 1 item, and it also makes building full-damage offer less scaling, really pushing the bruiser-build path as the optimal one.
Its no fun to build her bruiser/tank as the old crappy Elise.:)
Bruiser Elise was only crappy because Riot nerffed Elise. Bruiser Elise was very solid when Elise was solid, because Bruiser has always been her optimal build path.
Cobra10661 votesI completely agree with you. My point was that shouldnt nerf elise back to crappy elise.
Surr20plz1 votesWait what's happening? I was about to buy her.
HadesBlades2 votesNothing until next patch maybe don't worry there is nothing on PBE or going to be for a bit.
CatSith1 votesWhat are you talking about? there hasn't been any update on pbe for Elise.
Cobra10661 votesI'm just talking about possible future nerfs.:)
HadesBlades1 votesWhat are you talking about PBE doesnt even start till next patch nothing is happening to her
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What are you talking about PBE doesnt even start till next patch nothing is happening to her
tbh pbe has largely been just a holding station for whats coming up next.
I don't care if they set her mage or bruiser mage, or both. just let us know for sure where she stands and why.
Cobra10661 votesThats exactly what I would like to know:)
HadesBlades1 votesI know, but the pbe is also good for what Riot is thinking. She stands fine now and nothing on the PBE, Red Post, or Reddit say anything about elise nerfs, or much on her for that matter.