Teamwork in Gameplay at lower levels doesn't exist

Lyless··5 votes·2,283 views

Let me start of my saying never play ranked. It's just not fun. But teamwork or learning how to develop it cannot be learned at any Bronze level. Fights will start, people do not listen and objectives will not be met. It's a waste of time. I encourage all new players to abandon it!

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Toonspike3 votes

so much for "normals being a waste of time"

Lyless1 votes

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so much for "normals being a waste of time"

what are you talking about?

Toonspike2 votes

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what are you talking about?

all your rants about normals being a waste of time and you telling me about how you deleted everyone on your friend list who plays them

Lyless1 votes

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all your rants about normals being a waste of time and you telling me about how you deleted everyone on your friend list who plays them

Sure did. But that was then is this now. Ranked is useless. And piece of crap. And why do you have anything to say? You don't even play league anymore!

Toonspike3 votes

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Sure did. But that was then is this now. Ranked is useless. And piece of crap. And why do you have anything to say? You don't even play league anymore!

when did i say i quit league i dont play as often anymore because i have college classes and since you quit ranked i guess i ( and everyone else) was right about you staying in bronze

Lyless1 votes

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when did i say i quit league i dont play as often anymore because i have college classes and since you quit ranked i guess i ( and everyone else) was right about you staying in bronze

No. I just refuse to fight a losing battle. I stopped playing ranked for one reason, I had someone like you who didn't believe me and they manage to get 44 kills and couldn't win the game because the rest of the team couldn't or wouldn't group together. Basically it was 2 vs 5. And going on their advice I chose to wait until next season or never play it again.

The fact is you are too ignorant to find out the truth for yourself. You base you opinion on things that happened seasons ago!

Toonspike2 votes

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No. I just refuse to fight a losing battle. I stopped playing ranked for one reason, I had someone like you who didn't believe me and they manage to get 44 kills and couldn't win the game because the rest of the team couldn't or wouldn't group together. Basically it was 2 vs 5. And going on their advice I chose to wait until next season or never play it again.

The fact is you are too ignorant to find out the truth for yourself. You base you opinion on things that happened seasons ago!

  1. im talking about right now in this season and 2) if youre talking about this game http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1949938861/217527769?tab=overview so you're saying you're so bad that even with a fed as fuck LB you couldnt win, i mean look at this you didnt even build a sightstone till almost 25 mins in and you built deathcap for whatever reason 3) the same thing will just happen to you next season doubt anything will change unless you spend time to actually learn how to play this game
Lyless1 votes

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  1. im talking about right now in this season and 2) if youre talking about this game http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1949938861/217527769?tab=overview so you're saying you're so bad that even with a fed as fuck LB you couldnt win, i mean look at this you didnt even build a sightstone till almost 25 mins in and you built deathcap for whatever reason 3) the same thing will just happen to you next season doubt anything will change unless you spend time to actually learn how to play this game

Look all that stuff didn't matter. The other three wouldn't help push any lane as group. Therefore we lost. So please all that other crap is white noise!

Getting out of Bronze 5 is impossible without teamwork. I know how to play this game the problem they don't. But you would rather cherry pick one game out of many and focus on it. You really are a piece of work and you clearly have no idea how Bronze 5 works. I doubt you can still play the game after not playing for two months!

Toonspike2 votes

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Look all that stuff didn't matter. The other three wouldn't help push any lane as group. Therefore we lost. So please all that other crap is white noise!

Getting out of Bronze 5 is impossible without teamwork. I know how to play this game the problem they don't. But you would rather cherry pick one game out of many and focus on it. You really are a piece of work and you clearly have no idea how Bronze 5 works. I doubt you can still play the game after not playing for two months!

just beat you little less than a week ago, and im prob a little rusty but nothing 1-2 normals wouldnt fix

Lyless1 votes

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just beat you little less than a week ago, and im prob a little rusty but nothing 1-2 normals wouldnt fix

1vs1 don't count. This is a team game.

Toonspike2 votes

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1vs1 don't count. This is a team game.

you're using that as an excuse your extremely low lack of mechanical skill and in game knowledge and fyi in this "Team Game" of yours where teamfights dont usually actually start till after laning phase which is around the 12-15 minute mark and untill which you do need to be able to competently hold your own untill then. which is also part of this "Team Game" by your logic you shouldnt fault your lanes for feeding early since you havent started "team fighting" yet and it doesnt count. and with saying that our game only lasted 14 mins and i had your top inhib turret before the 10 minute mark, so yes 1v1s do count as they are an important part of the game

Lyless1 votes

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you're using that as an excuse your extremely low lack of mechanical skill and in game knowledge and fyi in this "Team Game" of yours where teamfights dont usually actually start till after laning phase which is around the 12-15 minute mark and untill which you do need to be able to competently hold your own untill then. which is also part of this "Team Game" by your logic you shouldnt fault your lanes for feeding early since you havent started "team fighting" yet and it doesnt count. and with saying that our game only lasted 14 mins and i had your top inhib turret before the 10 minute mark, so yes 1v1s do count as they are an important part of the game

I mean we wouldn't know about you since you never play, my understanding of the game is fine. Yours is in question all you do is talk and never play a game. So either play a game and I will watch you or shut up because no one want to hear your lies!

Toonspike1 votes

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I mean we wouldn't know about you since you never play, my understanding of the game is fine. Yours is in question all you do is talk and never play a game. So either play a game and I will watch you or shut up because no one want to hear your lies!

...i have over 400 ranked games this season...never play thats more than you http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Toonspike

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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who is everyone? You are too scared to play a game!

I believed him, and I'm very sure 99% of the whole Boards do. He wasn't even scared the slightest when he beat your ass, from a match where you embarrassingly tried to deny either it ever happen, or you put aside anything that were your own fault (good job trying to delete your comment that lead to your downfall).

UltraSceptile2 votes

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Look all that stuff didn't matter. The other three wouldn't help push any lane as group. Therefore we lost. So please all that other crap is white noise!

Getting out of Bronze 5 is impossible without teamwork. I know how to play this game the problem they don't. But you would rather cherry pick one game out of many and focus on it. You really are a piece of work and you clearly have no idea how Bronze 5 works. I doubt you can still play the game after not playing for two months!

Bronze 5 is pretty much bots to any decent player.

Lyless1 votes

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Bronze 5 is pretty much bots to any decent player.

oh yea, you couldn't win a game in Bronze in 5. Duo with anyone in Bronze 5 and try to carry and see what happens. If you don't want to shut up, becuase no one wants to hear an opinion of a coward.

UltraSceptile2 votes

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oh yea, you couldn't win a game in Bronze in 5. Duo with anyone in Bronze 5 and try to carry and see what happens. If you don't want to shut up, becuase no one wants to hear an opinion of a coward.

I don't need to duo with anyone in bronze 5, I actually was in bronze 5 at the start of this season.

You know what this community doesn't need? You. People who are shit at the game and refuse to admit it. Literally not a single person who is actually decent wants to deal with you insignificant fucks. You claim you're good at the game? Climb out of that cesspool like the rest of us. No one wants to listen to a single thing you, a retarded idiot, has to say. You're just all talk. You can't climb out. You're the guy no one gives a shit about, and your insults certainly carry no weight against a person who is actually capable of climbing the ranked ladder and isn't a retard.

Oh, and I can't duo with bronze 5 players. Why? Because I'm platinum and not actually trash at the game, and therefore Riot does me a favor, when I want to get cancer and play with bronze 5s it doesn't permit me to.

HexaDecimel2 votes

Maybe this is part of the healing process, a lot of people are blind to their own mistakes until they hit rock bottom.

Lyless jumped into ranked to quickly. He refused to accept help from anyone and scoffed at the idea of watching a streamer or pro play to improve his champion play. He raged on the forms and probably in game, failing to realize that he was part of the problem. He didn't take the time to properly learn the game as a whole and as a result has found himself trapped. He has completely and utterly destroyed his MMR to the point where losses cost him so much LP that he can't climb out.

That brings us to where we are now. The start of a long journey to the top of league competition. Lyless has given up on ranked, and has committed himself to start from the bottom and work his way up. Starting today he will be accepting submissions to join and help him grind through Intro Bots. Once he is comfortable at that level he will proceed to Beginner. It won't be easy, but nothing worth while ever is.

Please lend a hand to this player and help him crawl out of the mire.

Toonspike3 votes

^ well that + you're a hypocrite

UltraSceptile3 votes

K, this guy is trolling at this point. Don't even know why I even bothered to type out such a long insult, this dumbass isn't even worth my time.

Report me all you want too forums is just a time passer for me during queues for League, i don't really care one way or another if i get banned lol.

Lyless1 votes

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K, this guy is trolling at this point. Don't even know why I even bothered to type out such a long insult, this dumbass isn't even worth my time.

Report me all you want too forums is just a time passer for me during queues for League, i don't really care one way or another if i get banned lol.

Yeah run like the little boy you are. You know what you are saying is BS! A Plat player is backing everything I am saying. Bronze 5 is a impossible. No one care work with a team they refuses to work together. No one cares what excuse you make up or wat you claim. It's all lies and bullcrap! You are the dumbass because you refuse to realize the problem here. You have messed with the wrong one. So, it's best you back off now and run away. And get your brother or sister to play the game for you again.

No one is trolling except for you spewing that hot garbage! Go away and don't ever come back!

Toonspike1 votes

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Yeah run like the little boy you are. You know what you are saying is BS! A Plat player is backing everything I am saying. Bronze 5 is a impossible. No one care work with a team they refuses to work together. No one cares what excuse you make up or wat you claim. It's all lies and bullcrap! You are the dumbass because you refuse to realize the problem here. You have messed with the wrong one. So, it's best you back off now and run away. And get your brother or sister to play the game for you again.

No one is trolling except for you spewing that hot garbage! Go away and don't ever come back!

also UltraSceptile is Plat himself and HopFrogger is Gold 1 so.....

Lyless1 votes

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also UltraSceptile is Plat himself and HopFrogger is Gold 1 so.....

one no believes the coward that is UltraSceptile. And two, HopFrogger is a joke. he's just Gold. Better players than him have failed to win one game in Bronze 5. SO, that means nothing. In fact you are nothing. You couldn't get 15 kills in Bronze 5. So, give it up. You suck.

Toonspike2 votes

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one no believes the coward that is UltraSceptile. And two, HopFrogger is a joke. he's just Gold. Better players than him have failed to win one game in Bronze 5. SO, that means nothing. In fact you are nothing. You couldn't get 15 kills in Bronze 5. So, give it up. You suck.

im good enough to get out of bronze and if you're so bad that a plat player couldnt get you out then thats just sad, he probably said that shit because he felt sorry for you, if he actually cared he would have taught you how to play so you can carry yourself out...the fact that you're so bad that you made it impossible for a plat lvl player to win your game for you is almost atonishing

Lyless1 votes

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im good enough to get out of bronze and if you're so bad that a plat player couldnt get you out then thats just sad, he probably said that shit because he felt sorry for you, if he actually cared he would have taught you how to play so you can carry yourself out...the fact that you're so bad that you made it impossible for a plat lvl player to win your game for you is almost atonishing

How long ago was that? A long time ago. Different situation and you didn't get out alone you had a team that worked with you. I don't. And you cannot carry or get yourself of anything by yourself. Show me where you won a series a games one 1vs5 by yourself! Please show me that or go away!

Project Xero2 votes

check my recent games i had a teemo top lane game where i got 25 kills, and all of it was due to teamwork and careful planning. so teamwork does exist in the lower elo's but the problem is most people will choose to do their own thing.

AstroFerrari 2 votes

Idk who downvoted this, he's pretty much right. Sometimes this game is a headache due to the lack of communication and lack of teamwork

IcyPepper2 votes

The main issues is this:

Fights will start, people do not listen and objectives will not be met. It's a waste of time. I encourage all new players to abandon it!

If he encourages new players to just abandon it, he's actually adding to the problem.

Teamwork is a skill just like mechanics or game knowledge. Even at lower elo, you need to attempt it and practice this skill, alongside reading your teammates.

And teamwork swings both ways. Yeah, you'll get trolls and afk's and whatever else, but people sometimes don't realize that they're also the problem. Sometimes spamming "all push mid" when a tower goes down at ten minutes doesn't work, nor is it a good idea, and that's just part of the game.

Completely abandoning any attempts to perform teamwork is just... silly.

Abandoning the idea? Bad. Attempting it if others are willing, and just focusing on your own play if they aren't? That's fine.

UltraSceptile2 votes

This goes on to challenger.

Fiveofswords2 votes

dont know why ppl downvoted you. you are correct. the way people get out of low level is by trying to work as a team, not by trying to pick op champions and getting the best kdr (which is what the vast majority of weak players seem to focus on). in bad player games you of course need to learn how to not rely on teamates, but this is also true of the enemy. often you can just win in stupid ways...like once you are strong enough to solo the dragon, do it. split push bot lane all the way to nexus turrets before anyone on the other team notices, etc.

HexaDecimel1 votes

He got downvoted because all he ever does is come on the forms and complain about his team and how everyone in a higher elo is a liar. It started off with people trying to give him advice on how to improve and he constantly lashed out at anyone who tried to be helpful. He refuses to accept that there is anything for him to learn in the game.

Since then his posts have mostly become a downvote baited popcorn show for the tragically bored.

Lyless1 votes

As you can see all these "great players" can't even manage to win a Bronze 5 game. 1-10 the record stands at. I mean and all these great players! I tell you the lies are so great in this game.

Toonspike1 votes

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As you can see all these "great players" can't even manage to win a Bronze 5 game. 1-10 the record stands at. I mean and all these great players! I tell you the lies are so great in this game.

so theyre 10 losses somehow override the almost 200 of yours, ok thats some weird math you have there

Lyless1 votes

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so theyre 10 losses somehow override the almost 200 of yours, ok thats some weird math you have there

this is a team game. What part of that do you not get? You still don't seem to get that you can't win games 1vs5. I don't care what you do, it's not possible. No teamwork leads to losses. I don't know how you got so dumb to not understand!

Toonspike1 votes

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this is a team game. What part of that do you not get? You still don't seem to get that you can't win games 1vs5. I don't care what you do, it's not possible. No teamwork leads to losses. I don't know how you got so dumb to not understand!

i get that you using the term "Team Game" to cover up your own individual play well news flash part of that is important to the game too, if you wanna QQ about your "Team Game" go make a ranked 5's team....oh wait you're literally at the bottom so no one wants to team with you

Lyless1 votes

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i get that you using the term "Team Game" to cover up your own individual play well news flash part of that is important to the game too, if you wanna QQ about your "Team Game" go make a ranked 5's team....oh wait you're literally at the bottom so no one wants to team with you

I'M NOT covering up anything. Hence, this is why people like you are trash!

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

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As you can see all these "great players" can't even manage to win a Bronze 5 game. 1-10 the record stands at. I mean and all these great players! I tell you the lies are so great in this game.

No, you only claim yourself they can't win a Bronze 5 game. You don't even have evidence of them losing to a Bronze 5 for crying out loud, so stop spouting nonsense. There was one where you got rekt by a Gold 5 since you claim to "work alone", yet it's funny that you never gotten a single kill & you deleted it out of embarrassment.

They never lied. They did gave tips, you just brush them off so that you can continue to make up more lies you made up yourself. And here are some interesting facts:

  1. People gave you Kayle tips(including me), you said shut up. People also gave you build tips for Urgot, you quit right away & changed champions to main.

  2. You said "you wanted tips that people told you since you started League". Like what? You weren't even Level 30 at that time, so the tips you heard that time were "Take this item, it's cool!" or "Here take this kill! You get gold that way!". You aren't a kid anymore. You're progressing to a level where you have to take in Intermediate tips.

  3. The LeBlanc who went 44/9 is a Bronze 3, and he's not considered a "great/pro player", so your fact is a lie & invalid.

  4. You wanted tips? Go to Tips & Tricks and post a proper & legit thread, not spitting useless bs threads like this. The fact that you never wanted to do that indicates that all your threads were nothing but plain trolling. You're just posting crap about pro players just to seek attention, just like a facebook wh*re who always posts annoying pictures of just her face to attract Likes.

Lyless1 votes

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No, you only claim yourself they can't win a Bronze 5 game. You don't even have evidence of them losing to a Bronze 5 for crying out loud, so stop spouting nonsense. There was one where you got rekt by a Gold 5 since you claim to "work alone", yet it's funny that you never gotten a single kill & you deleted it out of embarrassment.

They never lied. They did gave tips, you just brush them off so that you can continue to make up more lies you made up yourself. And here are some interesting facts:

  1. People gave you Kayle tips(including me), you said shut up. People also gave you build tips for Urgot, you quit right away & changed champions to main.

  2. You said "you wanted tips that people told you since you started League". Like what? You weren't even Level 30 at that time, so the tips you heard that time were "Take this item, it's cool!" or "Here take this kill! You get gold that way!". You aren't a kid anymore. You're progressing to a level where you have to take in Intermediate tips.

  3. The LeBlanc who went 44/9 is a Bronze 3, and he's not considered a "great/pro player", so your fact is a lie & invalid.

  4. You wanted tips? Go to Tips & Tricks and post a proper & legit thread, not spitting useless bs threads like this. The fact that you never wanted to do that indicates that all your threads were nothing but plain trolling. You're just posting crap about pro players just to seek attention, just like a facebook wh*re who always posts annoying pictures of just her face to attract Likes.

I have no cause lie. They failed. And if I wanted to lie I would say all of them failed. One guy did what he said he would do. He was liar or failure like you are. Their "tips" were lies and didn't apply. To give a tip u have study what you are talking about. They clearly didn't. So, they like their tips are useless.

  1. Kayle is trash.

  2. I have never said that.

  3. That person has two accounts, the second one a Bronze 3 account. His main one is a Plat 1 account. Please read next time. It's not a lie.

  4. That board is useless. They say things that don't apply to the games in lower elos.

I am posting facts about so-called pro players. You guys are trash and don't deserve any of credit you get. Where is credit you even play any of the games you are in? Can you answer that? No, you can't! Go away trash!

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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I have no cause lie. They failed. And if I wanted to lie I would say all of them failed. One guy did what he said he would do. He was liar or failure like you are. Their "tips" were lies and didn't apply.

No evidence, and therefore all this is nothing but blah blah blah. and it's also because you didn't even tried harder enough. You ask what's 2+2, they gave you 4, and in future times, you will have to solve 23232+0823x29934/220. There's no such thing as a smooth journey where everything can be solved in one straight line. There are things that you yourself will have to solve, don't be so pampered too much to be able to stay on Bronze 5 forever.

To give a tip u have study what you are talking about. They clearly didn't. So, they like their tips are useless.

And you didn't study much about the tips at all. Like I said, not everything is solved in a straight line.

  1. Kayle is trash.

You afk-ed after getting rekt by a Kayle who you considered to be a trash. Don't believe me? Toonspike can post the picture for you ;)

  1. I have never said that.

You did. It's in the same comment thread you deleted where it used to have the two matches that you lost in.

  1. That person has two accounts, the second one a Bronze 3 account. His main one is a Plat 1 account. Please read next time. It's not a lie.

No type of smurfs could get the different elo as their original accounts. The elo they're referred to depends on their playstyle during the 10 provisional games, so having a Bronze who's original account being Platinum is impossible to believe. There was even a guy who won 8/10 provisional games, and still ended up being Bronze 4.

  1. That board is useless. They say things that don't apply to the games in lower elos.

That's because you never tried it yourself. You actually preferred to have other guys embarrass you in your PMS raging threads besides wanting actual tips. I don't even know what kind of tips you're expecting.

I am posting facts about so-called pro players. You guys are trash and don't deserve any of credit you get. Where is credit you even play any of the games you are in? Can you answer that? No, you can't! Go away trash!

You see what I mean? Your mouth is doing a lot of work than your brain does, and this is the true significance of a Bronze 5. And I can grab a 6/0 Galio as top which nobody does, what can you specialise in? I bet it's only mindless cry & insult, since you quit hella fast with Kayle & Urgot. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1945137304/208257366?tab=overview

Lyless1 votes

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No evidence, and therefore all this is nothing but blah blah blah. and it's also because you didn't even tried harder enough. You ask what's 2+2, they gave you 4, and in future times, you will have to solve 23232+0823x29934/220. There's no such thing as a smooth journey where everything can be solved in one straight line. There are things that you yourself will have to solve, don't be so pampered too much to be able to stay on Bronze 5 forever.

And you didn't study much about the tips at all. Like I said, not everything is solved in a straight line.

You afk-ed after getting rekt by a Kayle who you considered to be a trash. Don't believe me? Toonspike can post the picture for you ;)

You did. It's in the same comment thread you deleted where it used to have the two matches that you lost in.

No type of smurfs could get the different elo as their original accounts. The elo they're referred to depends on their playstyle during the 10 provisional games, so having a Bronze who's original account being Platinum is impossible to believe. There was even a guy who won 8/10 provisional games, and still ended up being Bronze 4.

That's because you never tried it yourself. You actually preferred to have other guys embarrass you in your PMS raging threads besides wanting actual tips. I don't even know what kind of tips you're expecting.

You see what I mean? Your mouth is doing a lot of work than your brain does, and this is the true significance of a Bronze 5. And I can grab a 6/0 Galio as top which nobody does, what can you specialise in? I bet it's only mindless cry & insult, since you quit hella fast with Kayle & Urgot. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1945137304/208257366?tab=overview

I am done playing ranked so I don't see any of this applies.

  1. Kayle is trash to me. I am not required to like her.

  2. I never said it. You have no proof of that.

  3. Actually, It isn't impossible I know the person.

  4. I don't want any tips or any help of any kind from anyone. I intend to force this game to change. Or else!

Lyless1 votes

nobody has proven my main point wrong.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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nobody has proven my main point wrong.

Even if we did, your one and only related reply is "Your point doesn't work, hence you're trash because I said so". Now stop bumping just to make more people see the stupidity in you.

Lyless1 votes

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Even if we did, your one and only related reply is "Your point doesn't work, hence you're trash because I said so". Now stop bumping just to make more people see the stupidity in you.

There no proving my point wrong. Your word means nothing. Futhermore, I don't respect any of your opinions. So, if you don't like my posts move along!

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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There no proving my point wrong. Your word means nothing. Futhermore, I don't respect any of your opinions. So, if you don't like my posts move along!

And if you don't like what you're playing, stop whining at Boards then.

Lyless1 votes

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And if you don't like what you're playing, stop whining at Boards then.

How about I do what I want and you leave me alone? Because I will say what I want, but you will not say what you want to me!

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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http://i.memeful.com/memes/wDg9xZd.jpg

I don't think your rule applies for a babybrat like yourself ;)

Lyless1 votes

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I don't think your rule applies for a babybrat like yourself ;)

don't care what you say!

Shonjl2 votes

That is pretty childish of you. If you want to be taken seriously. I would not have that attitude. Since as it is right now. You have the mentality of I am right and you are wrong and nothing you can say can change that. That is a 5 year old way of thinking.

While yes teamwork at low elo is crap, the fact that you basically say to anyone that attempts to say otherwise is false is just as foolish.

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