Ranked System is competely unfair!

Lyless··6 votes·1,090 views

When you win 10 games in a row and after winning 3 in a row your ranking never moves up not one spot, the moment I lose one game it drops 6 spots! 6 spots for real! This game is just completely unfair to me in every way possible.

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BadmoonBC4 votes

After all the complaining this guy does and for how bad he says he is I am unsure why he still bothers. Dude, here's some advice, your not climbing cuz your not good at the game. Either play for fun or find another game.

Lyless1 votes

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After all the complaining this guy does and for how bad he says he is I am unsure why he still bothers. Dude, here's some advice, your not climbing cuz your not good at the game. Either play for fun or find another game.

1o straight wins say I am good. So, you need to stop being jealous of me.

Sukishoo2 votes

I don't see 10 when looking you up, I see 7. Seeing how low you are it's not really hard to see that it's not gonna go up fast. You have to win even more then that to make it go up the way you think it will.

Lyless1 votes

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I don't see 10 when looking you up, I see 7. Seeing how low you are it's not really hard to see that it's not gonna go up fast. You have to win even more then that to make it go up the way you think it will.

It's 10. And 10 wins is still 10 wins. It shouldn't matter where I am. I should be B3 by now, but this game as usual loves to hold me down, while you guys cheer it on.

Yeah, I will have to win 500 games in a row just to get to Silver.

Sukishoo2 votes

Nope. 7 is not 10, stop exaggerating. Other people that looked you up said the same thing kid.

I played 500 games season 4 and got from Bronze 5 to Gold 5 and only won 200 of them, so try again.

Lyless1 votes

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Nope. 7 is not 10, stop exaggerating. Other people that looked you up said the same thing kid.

One guy said 8, and he was wrong too. It is 10. Just like this game you seem to like to lie and cheat me any way you can.

Sukishoo2 votes

Whatever you say kid... Lolking, op.gg and such sites do not lie. You only have 7 ranked wins in a row.

Lyless1 votes

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Whatever you say kid... Lolking, op.gg and such sites do not lie. You only have 7 ranked wins in a row.

you are a liar.

Lyless1 votes

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says the liar

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/55485474#matches

it doesn't show the other 3. Nice job know-it-all.

Sukishoo2 votes

Cause they don't exist, so nice try :)

Dominick Destine2 votes

I've been playing ranked since it was introduced and I had like 1400+ rating... I have no idea what the fiddle sticks the OP is talking about. Maybe League points?

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Lyless: I swear this game tries to keep me down.

Talking about that thread.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Talking about that thread.

I am not clicking that.

Good try though.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Eh, worth a shot. Thought you would get a kick out their thread at least. Anyways long story short: "OMG WTF?! WHY AM I NOT THE RANK I DESERVE AND INSTEAD STUCK IN BRONZE?!"

Kinda sums it up nicely I think.

Lyless1 votes

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Eh, worth a shot. Thought you would get a kick out their thread at least. Anyways long story short: "OMG WTF?! WHY AM I NOT THE RANK I DESERVE AND INSTEAD STUCK IN BRONZE?!"

Kinda sums it up nicely I think.

Who cares what you think? If you don't like the post, then move on. I deserve a better ranking than I have, I always have.

Void Nargacuga3 votes

Simple question: Then why haven't you climbed out of Bronze then?

Lyless1 votes

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Simple question: Then why haven't you climbed out of Bronze then?

Horrible teams that just engage and lose the entire game.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Then go after objectives instead of prioritizing kills. Like Dragon, Rift Herald, and early first tier towers. Especially that early first dragon. If you can get easily get a kill (for you or a team member) go for it. The gold will help. Be nice to the players you are on the same team with. That should help a lot too. Make suggestions like: "Hey we should probably get a dragon soon so the enemy team doesn't get it before us." and stuff like that. You would be surprised how much better a game is when people are nice to each other in game instead of blaming each other for every little thing that happens.

Lyless1 votes

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Then go after objectives instead of prioritizing kills. Like Dragon, Rift Herald, and early first tier towers. Especially that early first dragon. If you can get easily get a kill (for you or a team member) go for it. The gold will help. Be nice to the players you are on the same team with. That should help a lot too. Make suggestions like: "Hey we should probably get a dragon soon so the enemy team doesn't get it before us." and stuff like that. You would be surprised how much better a game is when people are nice to each other in game instead of blaming each other for every little thing that happens.

this doesn't work when the team doesn't play or work together.

Dominick Destine3 votes

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Horrible teams that just engage and lose the entire game.

I recently played a couple of matches in Bronze.... I utterly destroyed the enemy team in every game.

Bronze players barely even know the basic mechanics at all, let alone tactics like zone control, timing, rotating across lanes, objectives, peel, etc. If you cannot carry bronze, you deserve to be bronze.

Dominick Destine4 votes

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Who cares what you think? If you don't like the post, then move on. I deserve a better ranking than I have, I always have.

What is "Dunning-Kruger syndrome" for 500 Alex

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Eh, worth a shot. Thought you would get a kick out their thread at least. Anyways long story short: "OMG WTF?! WHY AM I NOT THE RANK I DESERVE AND INSTEAD STUCK IN BRONZE?!"

Kinda sums it up nicely I think.

Ok now I'll check it out .

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

redniwediS2 votes

I don't think you understand the word fair...

It is fair because everyone faces the same rules for climbing. That's the very essence of fair.

Lyless1 votes

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I don't think you understand the word fair...

It is fair because everyone faces the same rules for climbing. That's the very essence of fair.

Ten wins, is 10 wins. There is no reason that my last 3 wins got no point movement or ranking movement. That's just not even possible.

redniwediS3 votes

That doesn't change the fact that it is a fair system, by definition.

Lyless1 votes

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That doesn't change the fact that it is a fair system, by definition.

It's not a fair system. Not even close. Your version of fair is very skewed.

Randomonium2 votes

You have an average win rate less than 50%. Therefore, you will not climb in ranked.

Heck, I only have a 59% win rate and I've only played 34 ranked games this season and I've already gone up one division. It doesn't take much above 50% to go up in ranked.

How much LP are you gaining for a win vice losing for a loss?

Lyless1 votes

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You have an average win rate less than 50%. Therefore, you will not climb in ranked.

Heck, I only have a 59% win rate and I've only played 34 ranked games this season and I've already gone up one division. It doesn't take much above 50% to go up in ranked.

How much LP are you gaining for a win vice losing for a loss?

Well that's not right. 10 wins in a row should always count. So, this game is unfair to those who get screwed by the same game? Why don't you look it up since you know so much?

Randomonium3 votes
  1. You have NEVER won 10 ranked games in a row. The most you've gotten has been 8 (which is pretty damn good.) Please don't exaggerate. 2) What do you mean "they don't count?" Did you not get LP for them?
  2. You have a 45% win rate in ranked. Assuming you get equal LP from a win as a loss you will not rise in ranked unless you achieve greater than a 50% win rate. That's basic math so I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.
  3. Your team is not holding you down. There are countless smurfs and elo boosters who get out of bronze on a daily basis. The only common denominator in all your games is you. The only way you are going to climb is to improve YOURSELF, not blame your team. Right now just looking at your stats I can tell you don't deserve to climb in ranked. Compare our stats and honestly tell me you are a better player than me (keep in mind that I'm only bronze 2.)

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lyless http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Randomonium

My CS per minute is, on average, higher than yours. My KDA is, on average, higher than yours. My damage to champions, on average, is higher than yours. My kill participation, on average, is higher than yours. I place more wards than you in similar game lengths.

So please explain to me why you think you deserve to be a higher rank when you aren't better than a bronze 2 player in ANY area.

Lyless

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  1. You have NEVER won 10 ranked games in a row. The most you've gotten has been 8 (which is pretty damn good.) Please don't exaggerate. 2) What do you mean "they don't count?" Did you not get LP for them?
  2. You have a 45% win rate in ranked. Assuming you get equal LP from a win as a loss you will not rise in ranked unless you achieve greater than a 50% win rate. That's basic math so I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.
  3. Your team is not holding you down. There are countless smurfs and elo boosters who get out of bronze on a daily basis. The only common denominator in all your games is you. The only way you are going to climb is to improve YOURSELF, not blame your team. Right now just looking at your stats I can tell you don't deserve to climb in ranked. Compare our stats and honestly tell me you are a better player than me (keep in mind that I'm only bronze 2.)

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lyless http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Randomonium

My CS per minute is, on average, higher than yours. My KDA is, on average, higher than yours. My damage to champions, on average, is higher than yours. My kill participation, on average, is higher than yours. I place more wards than you in similar game lengths.

So please explain to me why you think you deserve to be a higher rank when you aren't better than a bronze 2 player in ANY area.

You also have luxury of better teams. None of your points hold water.

Randomonium2 votes

How does that make sense at all? You are either saying that I am somehow so lucky that I always get better teammates than you or you are saying the quality of player between Bronze 4 and Bronze 2 is so huge that it allows me to completely dominate you in every stat. Both are simply ludicrous. Even if the latter was true, we also are against better opponents so it should equal each other out. My teams typically are made up of all bronze against teams that have some silver players with a ton more ranked games and yet we still win.

For your sake I hope you do a reality check. You really should get a high level coach that you trust because he will tell you the exact same stuff. There are plenty you can get for free on lol-coaching.com. You are never going to climb until you stop blaming others and making excuses.

Also, thank you for completely ignoring # 1, 2 and 3 of my points.

Lyless1 votes

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How does that make sense at all? You are either saying that I am somehow so lucky that I always get better teammates than you or you are saying the quality of player between Bronze 4 and Bronze 2 is so huge that it allows me to completely dominate you in every stat. Both are simply ludicrous. Even if the latter was true, we also are against better opponents so it should equal each other out. My teams typically are made up of all bronze against teams that have some silver players with a ton more ranked games and yet we still win.

For your sake I hope you do a reality check. You really should get a high level coach that you trust because he will tell you the exact same stuff. There are plenty you can get for free on lol-coaching.com. You are never going to climb until you stop blaming others and making excuses.

Also, thank you for completely ignoring # 1, 2 and 3 of my points.

I am going ignore everyone of your points, because they don't apply to me.

Randomonium2 votes

They all apply to you but you can continue believing that if you want.

Enjoy being bronze for forever. You'll never climb with your mentality.

Lyless1 votes

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They all apply to you but you can continue believing that if you want.

Enjoy being bronze for forever. You'll never climb with your mentality.

The hell I won't. I will climb and go pass you and then throw it in your face. And I will do it my way.

Randomonium2 votes

Challenge accepted. Is this a gentleman's wager or would you like to put some RP on the line? When would you like the end date for our wager to be?

Lyless1 votes

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Challenge accepted. Is this a gentleman's wager or would you like to put some RP on the line? When would you like the end date for our wager to be?

I have nothing to prove to you.

Randomonium1 votes

I never said to prove anything to me. All I want you to do is back up YOUR words. YOU called me out. Now are you going to stand by it or are you going to backpedal away from it?

Lyless1 votes

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I never said to prove anything to me. All I want you to do is back up YOUR words. YOU called me out. Now are you going to stand by it or are you going to backpedal away from it?

Playing you is a waste of my time. Take it how you want.

Randomonium1 votes

I never said for you to play against me. You said you were going to climb faster. I challenge you on that notion. I think I will climb a lot faster than you. That's the challenge: come back in a month or two and see who is the higher rank. It doesn't require any additional effort from you so its not a "waste of your time." Just keep playing ranked and we'll see who's right.

Time for you to back up your words. Or are you just all talk and no action?

Lyless1 votes

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I never said for you to play against me. You said you were going to climb faster. I challenge you on that notion. I think I will climb a lot faster than you. That's the challenge: come back in a month or two and see who is the higher rank. It doesn't require any additional effort from you so its not a "waste of your time." Just keep playing ranked and we'll see who's right.

Time for you to back up your words. Or are you just all talk and no action?

whatever! do what you want!

Lyless1 votes

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Challenge accepted. Is this a gentleman's wager or would you like to put some RP on the line? When would you like the end date for our wager to be?

People like you ruin this game, why not offer in game help if you are so good?

Lyless1 votes

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People like you ruin this game, why not offer in game help if you are so good?

And now you have nothing to say?

Randomonium2 votes

Never said I was good. You said you were going to climb faster than me and throw it in my face. Are you going to back up that claim or not?

I gave you a TON of good advice and you completely dismissed all of it. Do you realize how rude that is?

Seriously, go on lol-coaching.com or another lol coaching site and get a plat/diamond coach FOR FREE to help you. They could help you way more than I could. But don't do it if you're going to dismiss everything they said like you did to me.

You want some more advice? Download a replay program and watch your replays to figure out what you are doing wrong.

You want even more advice? Watch LCS and high level streamers and see what they do that works well. You are never going to get better at this game unless you identify how good players are different from you.

Any good player can create a smurf and get back to diamond no problem. So what you need to do is figure out what is the difference between them and you (hint: its not because they get better teams.)

Lyless1 votes

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How does that make sense at all? You are either saying that I am somehow so lucky that I always get better teammates than you or you are saying the quality of player between Bronze 4 and Bronze 2 is so huge that it allows me to completely dominate you in every stat. Both are simply ludicrous. Even if the latter was true, we also are against better opponents so it should equal each other out. My teams typically are made up of all bronze against teams that have some silver players with a ton more ranked games and yet we still win.

For your sake I hope you do a reality check. You really should get a high level coach that you trust because he will tell you the exact same stuff. There are plenty you can get for free on lol-coaching.com. You are never going to climb until you stop blaming others and making excuses.

Also, thank you for completely ignoring # 1, 2 and 3 of my points.

And prior to my 10 game winning streak it enemy team worked together while my team scattered and played around. Most people get better teams than me on regular basis. It's what this game does to me.

Rebel 9862 votes

U belong n bronze. U whine too damn much n blame eveyone n everything except urself.

Lyless1 votes

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U belong n bronze. U whine too damn much n blame eveyone n everything except urself.

And you are trying to blame me which is the "REAL" problem!

Subject 52 votes

All I had to do was win like 1 game in my win back into silver 2, I am pretty sure I have a 50% win ratio.

Lyless1 votes

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All I had to do was win like 1 game in my win back into silver 2, I am pretty sure I have a 50% win ratio.

you are apart of this bias system. Thus, you are the enemy.

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