To be completely honest

Commander Javik·Jun 22, 2017·1 votes·490 views

I dont mind at all that Riot decided to do some work on Aatrox . But honestly guys , there are some other champions who could use some work on'em ... The 1st coming to my mind is ...

ekhem (clears throat) DEMACIAAAAAAAA !!!!

17 Comments

RewtJun 22, 20172 votes

or like Fiddlesticks . This guy has been basically useless in the jungle for something like 5 seasons. While he CAN be played. and CAN do very well. its a very small subsection of the community that actually plays this guy because tbh..... with the changes to the jungle he is just kind of shit now more than ever.

Commander JavikJun 22, 20171 votes

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or like . This guy has been basically useless in the jungle for something like 5 seasons. While he CAN be played. and CAN do very well. its a very small subsection of the community that actually plays this guy because tbh..... with the changes to the jungle he is just kind of shit now more than ever.

I agree with that . 100%

Critmaster GarenJun 22, 20172 votes

aatrox mains have been asking for a rework for a long time. riot at first didnt have any plans to rework him, and only changed their stance after long discussions about the champion with his mains.

meddler also confirmed a couple of weeks ago that they want to get some work done on garen this season aswell. (though no idea if they already decided on a patch theyre aiming at. would be really good to know)

however before they do, they need to pull the entire juggernaut class out of the shitter imo. you need a baseline where juggs arent complete garbage in general before you bring garen up to the rest of the bunch.

Commander JavikJun 22, 20171 votes

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aatrox mains have been asking for a rework for a long time.

meddler also confirmed a couple of weeks ago that they want to get some work done on garen this season aswell.

however before they do, they need to pull the entire juggernaut class out of the shitter imo. you need a baseline where juggs arent complete garbage in general before you bring garen up to the rest of the bunch.

Whenever i play Garen or Yorick (i consider him a jug) i have a feeling that this class of champion doesn't have it's place in the game anymore . Yea , they do damage , yea they're tanky , but they need something more ...

Critmaster GarenJun 22, 20172 votes

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Whenever i play Garen or Yorick (i consider him a jug) i have a feeling that this class of champion doesn't have it's place in the game anymore . Yea , they do damage , yea they're tanky , but they need something more ...

they just need their defensive itemization not to be garbage and marksmen not to be overtuned.

tanks have a similar problem right now.

the tank update ended up to generally make tanks and juggernauts less tanky, and marksmen and other squishy carries more tanky due to items like the rework item 3026 item 3812 etc. next to the general buffs to adc items.

HonestJohnTheConJun 23, 20171 votes

Since when were marksmen overtuned? I might be a bit biased because I'm an ADC main, but I find midlaners to be the most powerful class/role in the game right now.

Critmaster GarenJun 23, 20171 votes

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Since when were marksmen overtuned? I might be a bit biased because I'm an ADC main, but I find midlaners to be the most powerful class/role in the game right now.

since they basically buffed most adc items, and they turned g.a. into a marksman item with the tank update, while they generally nerfed the effectiveness of defensive items for other classes in the same patch.

they also buffed the specific support items that power up and protect adc.

like with all the safeguards they have on their items now, and the support protection, theyre ridiculously hard to take down, even when they make mistakes and are out of position to getting bursted or engaged on. they just live through it, while they power spike earlier now.

i dont know if you have noticed this, but we have a situation where bruisers and junglers already buy support items because they cant carry on their own anymore. youll see items like item 3109 on them more and more often.

HonestJohnTheConJun 23, 20171 votes

You have a point. Carry junglers and juggernauts definitely do need some help, and I can still carry as an ADC. I won't complain.

FireDrizzleJun 22, 20171 votes

I would like riot to rework Mundo if they are not going to buff him. They should rework Ahri Ekko Kled KogMaw Corki Azir

Commander JavikJun 22, 20172 votes

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I would like riot to rework Mundo if they are not going to buff him. They should rework

Mundo , yes . The rest : NO , especially Kog'Maw . His rework was reverted ^^ Kled ? He's in league since already a year now . And Riot already said they'll do some work on Azir .

FireDrizzleJun 22, 20171 votes

Ahri's mobility is crazy, even the ms boost allows her to dodge almost anything. Dashing in your face for a point blank charm is frustrating. And if you actually get caught it should be from being out of place not someone flashing multiple times. Ekko is a pos, nuff said. Kled's instant hp recovery is disgusting and the moment of invulnerability adds an element of luck. The ult is op for the teamwide ms buff and has no counterplay when vs champs with some immunity to cc. Kog is Kog. Corki cc'ing and bursting people down with the package is hideous.

HonestJohnTheConJun 23, 20171 votes

Those don't need reworks, they need nerfs. Riot rarely reworks champions that are UP or OP, they more often rework champs based on playrate, winrate, and fun factor. Just because Ahri, Ekko, Kog, etc. make people salty and may need nerfs doesn't mean that they don't have a wide playerbase who enjoys them.

HonestJohnTheConJun 22, 20171 votes

What?? Ahri, Kog'Maw, and Ekko are really popular champs, Kled only came out a year ago (and is a blast in my opinion) and Azir's been mentioned for reworks.

Critmaster GarenJun 22, 20171 votes

also, this guy needs a rework just as badly as garen

Tryndamere

im honestly stunned that hes not one of the champions who are highest on the priority list.

TerozuJun 23, 20171 votes

Especially since his gameplay is nothing like his character, he's supposed to be this hard hitting super slow super soldier, instead he's a super fast auto attacker, it's kind of annoying...

TerozuJun 23, 20171 votes

Are you talking about Garen, Lux, or Jarvan?

Commander JavikJun 23, 20171 votes