Let's agree that Vayne atm is a little bit broken since she can tumble crit you for almost 60% hp if she has a statikk . Not mentioning ie+shiv+tumble . You can basically get os with it . When will we see some nerfs to this ? It's just ridiculous .
Handy Sandy 2 votesyea lets also nerf veigars damage because u cant end the game before he reaches lategame
Commander Javik1 votesyea lets also nerf veigars damage because u cant end the game before he reaches lategame
Imo , you can't compare Veigar and Vayne since those are two different champions fullfilling a different task and role .
Handy Sandy 2 votesyou're supposed to shut down vayne and keep her down so she cant reach lategame where she'll just carry the game. That's what hypercarries are like, that's like asking to nerf 
because too much DPS. If you let her reach lategame then you deserve to be oneshotted.
Commander Javik1 votesyou're supposed to shut down vayne and keep her down so she cant reach lategame where she'll just carry the game. That's what hypercarries are like, that's like asking to nerf
Well , if you're playing ADC or jgl , then yes , but I'm a toplaner who likes to go tanky and she's just super frustrating to deal against . I don't want to sound like a noob who blames his teammates for loses , but it's the case . Whenever I see a Vayne on the ennemy team , i'm 100% sure that she'll get some early kills and will be a pain in the ass for the rest of the game .
Handy Sandy 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zetio Kendo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XtZFT0zu,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-15T15:09:46.883+0000)
Well , if you're playing ADC or jgl , then yes , but I'm a toplaner who likes to go tanky and she's just super frustrating to deal against . I don't want to sound like a noob who blames his teammates for loses , but it's the case . Whenever I see a Vayne on the ennemy team , i'm 100% sure that she'll get some early kills and will be a pain in the ass for the rest of the game .
That's why it's a team game. Don't expect to build tanky and still carry the game.
BananaJannana1 votesyou're supposed to shut down vayne and keep her down so she cant reach lategame where she'll just carry the game. That's what hypercarries are like, that's like asking to nerf
except that in a game where 5 strangers have been placed together on a team, their communication and teamwork wont be at 100%. Hard for you to believe, amirite? I guess it made more sense in your head: "kill vayne a few times during laning, group and end"
Another downside is that late game champions scale up even if they have 4-5 deaths in laning phase, making those 4-5 deaths essentially pointless.
Tbh I think she'd be fine if they gave her the old w % damages
BananaJannana1 votesIf you're in range to take that first shot, I assume you've been caught or are positioned badly. In both cases she's outplayed you so the death is deserved.
Its undeserved when she can rambo against 3 players because none of them have pink wards left to use against her, and there's no point-click cc to use.
If they gave us vision trinkets that worked like pink wards, vayne's win rate would drop drastically