@riot balance botlane or change it

undesirable team·Oct 18, 2017·1 votes·218 views

botlane meta is cancer, it revolves around a lategame carry being UNKILLABLE with a support such as with and . the problem here is , it lets carries scale stupidly fast and gives too many raw stats.

5 Comments

KaìjuOct 18, 20171 votes

Ardent has nerfs on the PBE but you have a point. I'm an ADC main, mostly Ashe and my opinion is that Enchanters are the problem. They have save the carry spells, but the thing is they aren't in line with delayed damage spells. For example, Tarics ult is amazing, but has a really long wait time. If Enchanters had more delay in their spells it would be much better. Tbag way you can't just panic shield. To me, panic shielding and shit is like panic ulting in Destiny 1 PvP. It isn't really skill, it's "Oh I have it up and I can use it instantly to just win this encounter." I don't really like to play bot at the moment because it doesn't even feel like a skill. It's who gets Ardent first and who has the bigger shield.

ErockandrollOct 18, 20171 votes

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Ardent has nerfs on the PBE but you have a point. I'm an ADC main, mostly Ashe and my opinion is that Enchanters are the problem. They have save the carry spells, but the thing is they aren't in line with delayed damage spells. For example, Tarics ult is amazing, but has a really long wait time. If Enchanters had more delay in their spells it would be much better. Tbag way you can't just panic shield. To me, panic shielding and shit is like panic ulting in Destiny 1 PvP. It isn't really skill, it's "Oh I have it up and I can use it instantly to just win this encounter." I don't really like to play bot at the moment because it doesn't even feel like a skill. It's who gets Ardent first and who has the bigger shield.

In my experience, Part of the problem is the mana gate.

If I was a poke support against an enchanter, the enchanter would have a pretty good ability of undoing the damage I did. The counter to that should be me coming up ahead in the war of attrition. That is to say, if I land my poke, they would run out of mana before I did. But that isn't happening as it use to. (You can probably thank coin for this.)

I'm not sure if large delays on shields is necessarily a good solution. Shields are only good for preventing damage, not recovering damage. They are designed to be more reactionary.

KaìjuOct 19, 20171 votes

If that was the situation shouldn't supports like Brand still be okay? I haven't played him since before his rework but isn't his Q relatively low cost?

ZerdunOct 18, 20171 votes

i believe its a problem between how much 'built in' sustain ADC's have with warlords and the play patterns of enchanters TBH. Light poke is utterly ineffective as it stands.

Besides this I'm tired of feeling inclined to simply buy coin as a support because its better than spell thief's in every way possible.