Can we talk about Marksman/ADC build pathing, it is in a poor state.
I am a Diamond 2 Marksman/ADC main and I am writing this in hopes that Riot will look into ADC build pathing because I believe it is in a very poor state.
tl;dr BT, Botrk, Essence Reaver should be changed to be good first items, BT and Essence Reaver should not be built out of BF Sword.
PROBLEM: First off, ADC's having to go IE first hurts them in many ways, first off you have to buy a BF sword early in the game. BF Sword SHOULD NOT be an item you have to buy in the early game, it is too expensive, no other role in the game has to buy an item component that costs anywhere near 1550 gold so early in the game. Popular starting items for others roles are athene's, morello's, any jungle item, ROA, trinity, frozen heart, spirit visage, etc. When building these items you do not have to sit on a lot of gold like you do when buying IE. For example, when building morello's you at most have to sit on only 880 gold to combine it, for frozen heart, you have to sit on at most 450 gold to combine 2 cloth armors to make warden's. But with IE you have to sit on 1550 gold to buy 1 piece of IE while, for example, morello's is made of 2 items that cost 820 and 600 gold, and those items are made even cheaper items. This is also bad for newer players. When I play normals with my friends that are mostly silver I constantly see the other ADC go back and not buy anything because they feel they are really far behind if they don't buy BF sword first.
PROBLEM: Due to ADC's having to build IE first, they are very weak until they hit 2 items. IE is not a good item by itself so you are extremely weak until you get an attack speed/crit item. Before when BT first was standard you had 100 AD which was great for your autos and your abilities so you could start fighting right away. If you watch pro games, especially in korea, you see pros buy an avarice blade after pickaxe or bf sword in nearly every game, this is because they know they are almost useless until 2 items so they are going to farm as much as possible to hit 2 items faster. I think there is a problem when we have ADC's buying early gold generation.
Problem: ADC build pathing problems continue throughout the game. Right now, tanks are extremely strong and ADC's are the main role to take down tanks. Right now the standard build is IE, Shiv, Last Whisper. The problem here is you cant do much to change this build. Before with BT start, you would get zeal second and if you have a tank on the other team get ahead or if you fell behind you could very easily just get a last whisper after getting zeal, then finish PD/shiv. You do less damage overall but you still have everything you need to kill the tank, lifesteal, attack speed crit, armor pen, you just have a little less atack speed and crit, which isnt a huge deal. But in this current patch you have to finish PD or shiv after IE because if you do not youre not getting much out of your IE because you dont have enough attack speed and crit. Whether you are behind or not it doesnt matter you have to stick to that build. Next you need lifesteal, you can buy a vamp scepter which delays your build by 800 gold and doesnt help you very much by only giving you 8% lifesteal. Then you get last whisper. Now you have another problem, if you need to buy mr, which you do at some point in almost all games, you can buy a null magic mantle but now you have 6 items with vamp scepter and have to wait 2700 gold until you get a BT. This is a huge problem for obvious reasons. If you decide to go with mr and bf sword you have to get 1950 gold with no lifesteal to get BT, which is extremely difficult to do especially in this current meta. If you decide to risk not getting mr and get bf sword and vamp scepter you can run into the problem of gettiing one shotted incredibly easily.
SOLUTION: BT should be changed to not build out of BF Sword, it should instead follow a similar build path to ghostblade and BotRK. I am not sure exactly what the stats and components of BT should be because it is something that needs lots of testing but idealy we have 3 options for ADC's to build early, BT which can give lifesteal and AD, BotRK which can give lifesteal, AD, and attack speed, and Essence Reaver, which gives lifesteal, AD, mana regen, CDR. The pathing for these items should be something along the lines of bilgewater + long swords, or maybe vamp + brutallizer, etc. IE can remain the same because buying BF late game is fine.
Ofc mages have to buy mana regen item first.
is not a good idea. You'd need to add an active to every one of them to stay consistent.
If BT built out of two Vampiric Scepters and BFS, I'd be cool with it.
built out of lesser components, like they did with 
and are about to do to 
, there would be a better build path for these items.
, and then a lot of mids can just work on 
.
first.
are only efficient if you already have 
without what bruisers may want to buy them if they want an AS-based agressive option.) (
only buildable buy ranged, and so on ) And directly it seems altought that Adcs are have so few options that they to do the opposite : like to buy items that were first made for bruisers to get an Early power spike (
) And as long as the item for adc is not awkward to build else bruisers/assassins/ oridon'tknowwhatrole tend to build it too, because then it's OP (
),and when an item is clearly made for ADC 
people don't build it, it's never strong enough, and people would prefer to have it for their bruisers and just look at the treads about Essence Reaver, everyone wants an early buildable item in the path so they could spam on Toplane. and you don't want that do you ? (
)
), same for runaan 
) i think ADCs should get more things to custom their stuff according to their characters, the build isn't necessarily bad, it's boring, it's always the same. Now you are defintely right with the tanks being OP being a problem, but that's the fact of Bami stuff now, not the fact of ADC, balance will make it normal again in a few patches.
and 1 
and wait for 1550 golds to go back and get 
. That's a lot of choices, and almost all of those items are used by at least some mages, some using almost all of those items effectively depending on the situation (only Mejai's, Twin shadows, and Gunblade don't show up regularly)
. That might not look like a short list, but more than half of these items have redundant niches. The items that aren't redundant in their niche are the ones that people build almost every time.
and 
can get away with building a 
or 
, the expectation of a marksman is that they are a sustained damage carry champion.
, or a ap tank controller 
, but they can't be that way. When you play those champions, you've implicitly signed yourself up to be a attack speed crit ad auto focused champion and are not allowed to be anything else.
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. A lot of times I will buy 
, which is not that bad vs a BF sword as most people try to say it is, expecially if you're in a mildly-passive lane where you can get a little poke going.
Ultimately, in a perfect world I always want to start 
. Then based on if the other team has invested in armor or not, I choose between