I Agree, Rylai's Needed A Nerf, but Doesn't Anybody Think This Is Too Much?

Prxzm·12/10/2016, 9:06:09 PM·4 votes·1,151 views

It doesn't even feel like it's worth the purchase anymore, and champions that actually relied on it to be good (item 3070AurelionSolitem 3070) feel like they're not even playable. I was looking at the stats and the passive in comparison to the only other AP+Health item in the game (item 3151), and Liandry's is just substantially better than it at this rate. A 20% slow feels entirely useless. A large majority of meta champions will manage to outrun a majority of Rylai's-based champions now, especially Aurelion. Aurelion has an extremely low base movement speed, I believe a mere 360 or 380 with Boots of Swiftness. Anyone who has tenacity, boots of swiftness, or a mobility boost of some sort will easily escape Aurelion.

Not to mention only 75 AP. A lot of Rylai's-based champions already weren't high on AP values to begin with. They were meant to deal sustained damage, not burst damage. If you're not constantly applying a meaningful slow, which you're not with the new Rylai's, then you need to be dealing an amount of damage that makes the purchase significant, which you're also not doing with the new Rylai's. For champions that relied on the health as a part of their kit, either being close/mid-ranged like Aurelion, being a bruiser like Rumble, or health being a main aspect of your kit like Vladimir, the nerf to 300 health on top of the damage and slow nerf just makes Liandry's a much better option.

In my opinion, all three of the stats provided on Rylai's shouldn't have been nerfed. It definitely needed a nerf, but Riot went about it in the wrong way. Nerfing the health was completely unnecessary, and lowering the damage and passive so drastically was too much. Even with the gold decrease, it's not gold efficient. Even with Liandry's costing 500 more gold, the passive and extra 5 AP make it significantly better than Rylai's. Rylai's is just a minor stat boost with a meaningless passive at this point.

400 Health, 85 AP, 30% Slow. That would've been a better choice.

7 Comments

Tukan Tonko12/10/2016, 9:08:40 PM2 votes

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Make item 3069 Shurima great again item 3070

RcGjWO640w12/10/2016, 9:20:01 PM1 votes

The goal was to turn Rylais into more of a support item, rather than a standard buy on all mages. Permaslows on spam mages like Ryze have always been ridiculous to deal with and a lot of times it just feels like there's nothing you can do but die the moment you catch one slow.

JhomasTefferson12/10/2016, 9:20:23 PM1 votes

i feel like a small nerf to the slow and then a slight reduction to the stats it gives would have been better, but this solidifies it as more of a utility item than a raw power item with great utility

Tsugaga12/10/2016, 9:42:16 PM1 votes

25% stat nerf but it's 18.75% cheaper too. Not a big nerf, and obviously it will make mages less powerful, but you can't complain of that, that's the point of a nerf.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo12/10/2016, 10:20:59 PM1 votes

that is what you get when people cry and bitch so much... RIOT over does it...

other wise the community wont stop crying and bitching

its like giving into a 3 yr old throwing a fit and your just tired of dealing with it... you give them whatever they want to shut them the fuk up

Big Lincoln12/10/2016, 10:26:35 PM1 votes

no, i don't.

an item that gives potential permaslow from high range while also being extremely valuable stats wise is cancer

i'd be happy to see it and mallet removed entirely, ever since it became a relevant item it's been nothing but trouble.

Waffletimewarp12/10/2016, 10:31:28 PM1 votes

As a Singed Main. I love this change. Lets me spike faster.