Why is everybody complaining about Lethality?

ForgottenStone··4 votes·700 views

Lethality itself is actually really weak compared to old armor pen. Its basically nerfed armor pen that only works on champions and needs your target to be lvl 18 so you can get the full effectiveness out of it.

Problem is the items that give lethality are really strong.

Take item 3814 for example: You get a spellshield, a ton of AD, armor pen, magic resist and move speed all rolled into one item.

I guess people want to believe there is something wrong with Lethality, and not the items themselves.

People would be calling Mpen broken if all of a sudden Riot nerfed Mpen so it worked like lethality but then added a few more Mpen items to the game like:

Rune of Day +15 Mpen 100 AP 30 Armor +5% movespeed active - heavy shield against physical damage that lasts 10 seconds (shield can be popped through physical damage) on a 30 second cd

4 Comments

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

They nerfed the effectiveness but they increased the amount you can get.

  • Runes used to provide ~21 (now 24)
  • Duskblade used to provide 10 (now 15)
  • MoM used to provide 10 (EoN now 15)

Even at 60% efficiency, Duskblade and EoN provide almost as much armor pen as the items they replaced.

ForgottenStone1 votes

So Lethality is slightly better late game I know.

But in the end Lethality itself is still weaker overall since early game where flat armor pen is strongest it's a bit weaker. Lethality is just scaling armor pen, starts off weaker than old armor pen and by late a little stronger.

Don't you think the real problem is the items themselves?

Like item 3814 in the OP, or item 3147 which gives a ton of AD, armor pen, flat movement speed, a passive that gives you a true damage nuke if you haven't been seen and even if spotted lasts 4 seconds afterwards, and finally a passive that detects and shutsdown all nearby wards around you like a free item 3364

ForgottenStone1 votes

To all the people giving downvotes if lethality was removed from the game and old armor pen was back; this item 3814 item 3147 item 3142 wouldn't be OP?

Let's say even if we gave the items their original armor penetration values back? item 3814 : 15 or 10 flat ArPen item 3147 : 10 flat ArPen item 3142 : 20 flat ArPen

Winterkill1 votes

It's the fact ADC are abusing it.

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