Lucian still broken

Mood in blue·5/13/2016, 11:38:22 AM·80 votes·6,751 views

I could say he's nearly 100% pick/ban in competitive, i could say every challenger ADC is a Lucian main, or that he has no weak points except 500 range (almost irrelevant since he has way too many strenghts), i could say he has http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/adc/diamond/by-winrate 60% (SIXTY PERCENT pickrate) while having 51.7% winrate.

Everything points out that he's unbalanced.

96 Comments

Evewynn5/13/2016, 3:48:22 PM20 votes

Don't worry, at least Aurelion Sol is getting nerfed again.

CppL5/13/2016, 11:46:53 AM17 votes

Im prety sure he so strong cause of the essence reaver ,that item give him so much cdr.When you play against him ,it feels like his E has no cd...

Sylverblitz5/13/2016, 12:32:10 PM15 votes

I'm tired of seeing him and Ez everywhere. I would like to see Riot set themselves a goal where they have at least 5 viable picks for each position when balancing champions. Right now we have a few obvious OP champions every patch and it's just a race to use those before they get nerfed and move onto the next one. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Hullabaloo9075/13/2016, 1:22:14 PM12 votes

His cool downs should get some increases. I'm not sure if they nerfed him when they reworked essance reaver, but lucian getting extra the extra cdr is what brought him back to problem territory

Lady Hammerlock5/14/2016, 12:52:13 AM8 votes

Lane bully check strong mid game check stong late game check can melt tanks check(with the korean build) can melt squishes check mobile? check

what the fuck is that win rate and play rate check

You know whats worse?Fiddle's win rate is only about 4% higher but he has an abysmal play rate....and they're still nerfing him

metaworldpeace105/13/2016, 5:54:24 PM5 votes

As somebody who's played tons of Lucian the past 3 seasons, I'd like to chime in on this discussion :). Lucian's pick rate and winrate are EXTREMELY high. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of nerfs, but overall Lucian is hardly broken. The ADC rework really benefited Lucian. ADCs before the rework were very bland and boring (jinx v vayne or Tristana every game") now you can pick tons of ADCs and be successful. In all honesty though, Lucian is one of the most fun champions in the game. He has a pretty high skill cap to play well and feels rewarding when you play him right, but he's also weak enough in the wrong hands with somebody who doesn't know how to play him. I dunno, nerfing him would be okay and I'd be fine with a couple of small nerfs, mostly mana costs in the early game, but overall the adc diversity is MUCH better than season 5

The Deckowner5/13/2016, 2:21:28 PM5 votes

it's essence reaver that is the problem

The Taco Kat5/13/2016, 9:22:26 PM3 votes

I don't see why people have such a strong hatred for him. If you compare best KDAs, Sivir, Ezreal, and Jhin all have better ones than him (although Sivir is to be expected with her ultimate). Lucian additionally has a higher win-rate in the early game, but falls down by about 3% by the time it reaches end-game. I've never had problems facing him (except for the first year after his release), and I think he is just amongst one of the few "fun" ADCs, as he isn't a right-click ADC. Honestly, if they want to make changes to him, lower his Piercing Light base damage by 25 at all ranks, but raise the early damage on Ardent Blaze.

Also, the 500 range is very painful. Any ADC with 500 range or lower is always in a dangerous position when trying to deal DPS.

I'm not saying he isn't strong, but he just seems to be a bit more of a fun champion to play that is still respectable in terms of power.

MunchCrunchLunch5/13/2016, 7:00:45 PM2 votes

lucian is too well rounded. no weaknesses. strong early mid and late game. mobile. sustained damage. burst. you name it he has it all.