Can we have an honest talk about all forms of point and click CC
I think one of the worst feelings in league of legends is feeling like there's literally nothing you can do to improve your situation. How can you enjoy a matchup when there really isn't anything to outplay.
Are you an adc farming in a side wave?
has been hiding in the bush near your turret for 2 full minutes, and he steps out and blinds you. It doesn't matter that you quickly retreat, use any dashes in your kit to provide distance, assuming he isn't 0/27, he's probably going to kill you.
Are you rocking it in the mid lane, going for good trades, even doing well? Well too bad, because
or
just hit level six. And with a
ultimate, followed up by the same from a
, you're going to die. There is nothing you can do about it. Now they are ahead, and you have to play on the back foot. God forbid either of these two snowball, then good luck even trying to farm.
How about a good old
polymorph in the bot lane? Nothing says Fun and engaging counterplay like not being able to dodge a form of cc that lasts long enough to guarantee a lost trade.
I could go on, but my point is, there's no fun in these situations. Are these broken? No, of course not. Whether or not they are seen in pro play is irrelevant because pros get paid to play. Theres a feeling of satisfaction when you time out
net or
s dash with a solid prediction to land your
stun or
Q. There's a rush when you finally peg that slippery
with your
stun and get your combo off. Likewise, positioning to sidestep
's third Q or
's ax feels good. When you get hit by a
you can figure out where you went wrong. But with point and click cc, it can be hard if not impossible to avoid and/or figure out how to not get caught again.
was out of control at worlds last year because even pro players were struggling to cope with the
ultimate combo. These things suck the life and fun out of a laning phase or even an entire game. Point and click spells in general feel face-rolly and leave little room to maneuver. And I think Riot understands this. When was the last time a champion, besides the last ryze rework, was released with a form of hard CC that was point and click? Longer then I've been playing the game. Even Camille's ultimate you can still move and outplay her within the confines. (another champ nerfed into irrelevance but that's a topic for another time)
Again, my argument isn't that it's OP (although the argument is there for some), my argument is that it is no fun for anyone. Not rewarding for the player using the ability, and frustrating and sometimes seemingly uncounterable to the person on the receiving end.
Any thoughts?
needs it given that it's the only way for him to deal with a mobile champion, and it's a huge part of his dps. Without that gold card, TF is just about worthless.
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